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Old 30-09-2007, 04:38   #1
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Is there anyone in the Twin Cities area that would be willing to take a look at a boat for me?
My son-in-law’s cousin is considering a C&C33, near Minneapolis, and could use an experienced eye to assist with his preliminary appraisal.
I’m not keen on the 8-hour (one-way) trip.
He hopes to be in the area around noon, on Saturday, October 6/07.
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Sorry Gord: My drive to MN would make your look like a walk in the park. How about getting a copy of "inspecting an aging sailboat" (or soemthing like that)and having your son in law read that. By using the different ideas in that book it is possible to decide whether or not to get a survey done or not.
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Old 30-09-2007, 14:42   #3
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I would say call a surveyor and see if you can purchase a few hours of time. Better to have someone good for the preliminary if he has to drive all that way. Saving a second trip would pay for the cost.

Early Oct is such a great time to be in the Twin Cities. Could be marthon weekend? Trees are usually maxed out with fall color then.
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I would but I'm afraid I woundn't know much of what I was looking at.... Just getting into all this myself!
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Sorry Gord, I will be painting my house this weekend. Now if your relative is handy with a paint brush and scraper.... It is Marathon Weekend here and it is not the best for fall colors due to the drought earlier in the summer. Where is the boat at and is it in the water?
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The boat's in the water, somewhere on "the" River.
It appears I'm making a road trip, Saturday.
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St Croix river probably. Either that or Lake Pepin. I would do it myself as I lived there for 28 years but I'm more than a long drive from there now. Hey, it's a great time for fall color. Enjoy!
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I wonder if it is on the St Croix River east of St Paul on the Wisconsin border? Quite a few sailboats there but not to many on the Mississippi until you get 70 miles south to Lake Pepin. There are just a few at Watergate Marina where I am at but I don't recall if any were C&C's. It wouldn't be there would it?
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Just found out that "Anna Marie" is at Lake City Marina (Lake Pepin?).
Sounds like another hour further than I was dreading ...
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That would be Lake Pepin.

Wish I knew more about what all to look at and could save you the drive.
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Lake City Minnesota, the "Birthplace of Water Skiing" in 1922. It is a pretty area nestled between the river bluffs. Too bad it is a few weeks to peak fall color as it is a prime area because of the many oak and maple trees. The good news is they are predicting a very nice weekend 75-80 f . Bring your wife and make a weekend of it. You will pass thru Red Wing on the way to Lake City. It is a popular rivertown, lots of Victorian architecture, antique shops , shopping, etc. Come on down and spend some of those strong Canadian dollars.
My resolve to be productive this weekend is weakening with the nice weather forecast. I am tempted to head up north to a friends lake cabin and get in some fishing. If I stay and do my painting I may have to break away for an hour or two of sailing on the local city lake. I am running out of weekends to get my painting done so I am uncertain which way I will go.
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My turf...

...and my grandbabies are still there (with their parents, of course.) Unfortunately, the parents aren't sailors.

There are a couple of surveyors in the region, but realize their primary market is powerboat surveys. Hiring a surveyor from Lake Michigan coast may be worth it for the experience with sailboats, but their market value may be suspect.

Boats on Lake Pepin, if that has been their primary waters since launching, tend to be well-cared for. They rarely experience sustained winds, or fatigue/chafe environments; constant wake is the biggest threat to the boats. That said, boats which are regularly sailed may experience extreme weather conditions for short periods of time in thunderstorms. Winter weathering is a larger issue for most sailboats, especially running rigging and canvas chafe from winter winds; heatshrinked boats have a decided advantage.

Note: the vast majority of MN boats are stored ashore, which has another benefit for GRP boats: less moisture in the laminate thus fewer blisters. Many boatyards do not know how to detect or repair blisters because they've just never seen 'em.
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Inspected the C&C33 Saturday (20 hour day) .
She’s a nice boat, in excellent condition - excepting a couple of minor hull blisters, and one larger & mysterious flaw at the bow. I was unable to determine the cause and consequence of this 12 x 8" “blister-like” defect.
I suspect my cousin-in-law might make an offer, subject to survey, and defect valuation.
Thanks for your help & comments.
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Can anyone recommend a surveyor that would travel to Lake City, Mn?

Does anyone have any experience with hull repair & painting (Awlgrip) at Hansen's Harbor Marina, at Barker’s Island?
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