Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > Monohull Sailboats
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Closed Thread
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 17-03-2013, 18:34   #316
Registered User
 
DumnMad's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Nelson NZ; boat in Coffs Harbour
Boat: 45ft Ketch
Posts: 1,559
Re: Merged- Windigo Abandoned. Please Help

Pelagic.

BTW, pity the hull couldn't be taken away for a kids hut or sent to the bottom for a fish cave. Chopping or burning seems silly.
DumnMad is offline  
Old 17-03-2013, 18:38   #317
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: O'Day 28
Posts: 3,920
pirate Re: Merged- Windigo Abandoned. Please Help

Pelagic: ...they also hoped that they could reclaim their yacht after they had time to recover from the bashing.


Blue Crab is offline  
Old 17-03-2013, 19:13   #318
Registered User
 
Mr B's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
Boat: Paper Tiger 14 foot, Gemini 105MC 34 foot Catamaran Hull no 825
Posts: 2,912
Re: Merged- Windigo Abandoned. Please Help

Too give an indication of how hard it would be to get from a Boat to a ship in bad weather,

Go sailing with another boat,, next time the waves are 10 feet high, just swap from one boat to the other,

Very simple to sit here and say what you will do, Do the above exercise first, Then come back and say how easy it was,

In 2 or 3 feet of waves, it gets very difficult just to get on and off my boat from the dinghy, let alone trying to climb a rope ladder thats maybe 50 foot high, and pitching up and down at the same time,

Plus your slamming into what ever your parked against, Ship, Etc,

I do believe they are older people, So not fit and healthy to do Iron Man Stuff, In their rescue, I do believe they were injured also, Making it even harder to get off their boat,

They thought Their necks were on the line,
Who would think to sink the boat or any thing else in those situations,
Just get us up on the ship to safety,

Video's do not show the wave heights,
I have video's of bad weather and biggus waves, But when played back on the computer, It looks dead flat, Very calm seas, Big disappointment,
Mr B is offline  
Old 17-03-2013, 19:41   #319
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,976
Re: Merged- Windigo Abandoned. Please Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic View Post
I have rescued and been rescued, worked offshore in commercial salvage operations and searched for bodies near a prematurely abandoned freighter that survived the storm where 9 of the 12 crew were found drowned.

Training pulled me thru the worst parts of those events, but later evaluation haunted me that some of my decisions could have been better.

The couple made the decision to abandon, which signifies they had given up. So from their perspective it was a good decision.
Most of us, who have experienced those conditions, feel it was premature, but we were not there.

My belief is they also hoped that they could reclaim their yacht after they had time to recover from the bashing.
That turned out to be a very poor decision and underlines the level of commitment a skipper must make when a decision to abandon is made.

Rather than big brother mandatory insurance, I feel sailors should have the choice of purchasing rescue/med-evac insurance and this could even be tied into the licensing of the alarm/ positioning equipment and even more.

By more, an insurance plan could also provide a temporary salvage crew to take over the yacht if still seaworthy and deliver it to a safe port. (I am sure the satellite agencies had the yacht on their monitors for a while, but because there was no commercial reward… they turned the cameras away)

I personally would be happy signing an international release form that I will not cry for help unless I am prepared to shoulder the costs, so as to keep government agencies and insurance agents out of my life.
But that is just me!

Those are very good ideas. I don't think insurance companies have the vision to implement them, nor do most cruisers have the foresight or I daresay the humility to buy such policies.

But that does not lessen the fineness of the thinking.
__________________
Can't sail? Read about our travels at https://alchemyonpassage.blogspot.com/. Can't sleep? Read www.alchemy2009.blogspot.com for fast relief. Can't read? Avoid www.volumesofsalt.blogspot.com, because it's just personal reviews of sea books.
S/V Alchemy is offline  
Old 18-03-2013, 00:40   #320
Moderator Emeritus
 
Boracay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia
Boat: CyberYacht 43
Posts: 5,174
Images: 19
Re: Merged- Windigo Abandoned. Please Help

This thread has deviated so far from the original post that it is being closed.
Boracay is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
rescue


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Merged Threads: HMS Bounty Mark1977 Cruising News & Events 571 01-08-2013 13:08
What to do with an Abandoned Vineyard Boat? Soundbounder General Sailing Forum 8 13-01-2012 05:11
S/V 'Quantum Leap' - Abandoned at Sea SkiprJohn Cruising News & Events 11 13-12-2011 12:34
'Spring Moon' Abandoned Blue Stocking Atlantic & the Caribbean 13 10-11-2011 07:56
Trinity II Abandoned in Bay of Campeche nv5l Atlantic & the Caribbean 14 11-09-2011 21:12

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 00:16.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.