Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-02-2015, 19:55   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 16
Mast Steps/Stairs

I'm going to attach aluminum steps up each side of the mast. I have made and tested some of 1/8" x 1- 1/2" aluminum and they seem strong enough but I would like verification. Does anyone have experience building mast stairs/steps and will 1/8" x 1-1/2" be stiff enough or should I go with thicker metal? Thanks in advance.
__________________

123jashe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 22:04   #2
Moderator
 
JPA Cate's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 12,256
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Why not test fit a couple of them to a 4 x 4, and see how they feel to you? Not knowing how heavy a person you want to have using them, nobody can, without risking liability, tell you what stock to make them from.

Ann
__________________

__________________
Who scorns the calm has forgotten the storm.
JPA Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 22:10   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Did that but I'm just looking for additional information from someone who has been there.
123jashe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 22:50   #4
Registered User
 
UNCIVILIZED's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Up the mast, looking for clean wind.
Boat: Currently Shopping, & Heavily in LUST!
Posts: 5,629
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

I'm assuming that you bent them into the typical triangular type pattern? If so, do you have a way to put the strength/heat treatment back into the aluminum? As when metal is bent severely, into the plastic range (to where in aluminum, it begins to turn whitish), the metal is changed at the molecular level, & loses a good bit of strength.
Thus my curiosity as to how these were fabricated. Also, what's your plan/intended usage for the steps?

And I hate to be a wet blanket, but a proper, safe, mast climbing system is what I favor.
Even with steps you'll need a safety line or two.
__________________

The Uncommon Thing, The Hard Thing, The Important Thing (in Life): Making Promises to Yourself, And Keeping Them.
UNCIVILIZED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 23:28   #5
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 5,003
Images: 1
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

I'm not sure why you want to amke these yourself. You can buy these for 9 bucks a pop

Fixed Mast Stair - Aluminum - Mast Plates & Steps - Spar Hardware - Sailboat Hardware & Rigging - Downwind Marine

I have a 16 meter mast and plan to mount these and will need around 50, so the total expenditure will be $350.

Can you even make them yourself for that?
__________________
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 01:38   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 244
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Uncivilised makes a good point about heat treating ...

You could do it in your oven ... seems that it's not too hard::

Aluminum Workshop: Achieving T6 designation for 6061 - TheFabricator.com
jannw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 04:56   #7
Registered User
 
Whitebread117's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 104
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

980 degrees F is rather hard to achieve in a household oven- you might want to reread your link.
__________________
<Insert Heavy Sarcasm Here>
Whitebread117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 05:27   #8
Moderator
 
HappyMdRSailor's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Mississippi
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon-C22 Chrysler Sunpiper- 19 Potter-Preparing to cruise w/my girl
Posts: 5,976
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

No way for us to tell without knowing what you did jashe...

There is a ton of difference between alloys 1100, 5052, and 6061... or any of the other 25 you could have... temper/annealed before bending... step span, angle, radii of bends...
__________________
In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair...

Mai Tai's fix everything...
HappyMdRSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 05:37   #9
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: British Columbia, Mexico
Boat: S&S Hughes 38
Posts: 837
Images: 23
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Anything but folding steps are a waste of time and money.
highseas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 05:49   #10
Registered User
 
Strait Shooter's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Straits of Juan De Fuca
Boat: Ingrid
Posts: 787
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Quote:
Originally Posted by highseas View Post
Anything but folding steps are a waste of time and money.

In YOUR not so humble opinion?
__________________
"Waste your money and you’re only out of money, but waste your time and you’ve lost a part of your life.” (Michael Leboeuf)
Strait Shooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 05:55   #11
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 5,003
Images: 1
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Quote:
Originally Posted by highseas View Post
Anything but folding steps are a waste of time and money.

Why do you say this?

you can slide off folding steps, where the enclosed ones keep your foot on the step even as the boat heels.
__________________
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 05:57   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 209
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

I put stainless steps on my Morgan. I weigh 240 lbs so had trouble pulling myself up with a halyard. They never caused me any trouble in ten years. Mac
Hard Rock Candy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 06:10   #13
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: British Columbia, Mexico
Boat: S&S Hughes 38
Posts: 837
Images: 23
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Windage,halyards catch on them,chafe,safety.A harness is still required even with mast steps.Enclosed stainless can be sharp on the foot,when you DO slip.
highseas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 15:54   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

Carstenb
Thanks for the picture. Each of my steps will take about 20" of material. The aluminum (5052) I am using costs about $1/ft so making them is considerably cheaper and really pretty easy for me since I have a shop.
123jashe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2015, 16:29   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CHESAPEAKE
Boat: CS
Posts: 15
Re: Mast Steps/Stairs

I won't even LOOK at buying a boat w/ mast steps. Hate the ugly things.
Or in mast furling. But that's just me. And I DO understand why one would want them.
Still don't like them.
__________________

6227 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
mast

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Installing Mast Steps with Mast Up squarpeg Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 19 26-07-2015 11:04
440: L440 lights in o/s saloon and stairs HimHerBoySissy Lagoon Catamarans 2 04-09-2014 14:35
Sailboats With Few Stairs From Cockpit To Cabin snort Monohull Sailboats 8 24-02-2013 01:35
Ladder or Stairs? Chasing Summer Monohull Sailboats 12 29-12-2012 21:20
Reinforcing Companion Way Stairs rileydog Construction, Maintenance & Refit 2 27-02-2012 16:28



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:10.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.