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Old 16-11-2013, 14:37   #16
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Endeavour 32 here in Marathon that is set up with solar and everything, owner I'm sure will take under 10k. We owned one and it was a great sailing boat, felt roomy and this one is in good shape with a recent survey. 1977 Endeavour 32... Beauty... Sails like a dream $15,000
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Old 16-11-2013, 14:57   #17
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Endeavour 32 here in Marathon that is set up with solar and everything, owner I'm sure will take under 10k. We owned one and it was a great sailing boat, felt roomy and this one is in good shape with a recent survey. 1977 Endeavour 32... Beauty... Sails like a dream $15,000
An existing survey may be useful as a guide but DO NOT buy a boat based on one. The surveyor may be the owners brother-in-law !

If you do decide to look at this boat there is a very good surveyor in Marathon ... Dewey Acker, www.ackermarinesurvey.com
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Old 16-11-2013, 16:17   #18
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A friend of mine just bought an S2 30' for 5k..I thought it was a good buy..
If it is a 7.9 (edit: oops that should be 9.2) (29' 11") the nearest to 30' that S2 made, it has a solid hull.


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Beware S2's ... balsa core bottoms. Have only surveyed three, all had severe cases of rotten balsa in the bottoms
That's a bit of a sweeping statement - more S2s have solid hulls than cored.
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Cored: 10.3, 9.1, 7.9, 6.9, 6.7, 5.5, 22 - 1142 boats total.
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Old 16-11-2013, 16:41   #19
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I don't see anything "sweeping" about mentioning three specific boats. I said I surveyed only three and those three had rotten balsa. We don't see many S3's On Lake Ontario. Below is a photo of one of them, an S2 7.9 and the core plug clearly showing rotten balsa.
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Here is another one of a chunk of that wet balsa pulled from the S2 7.9 core plug. Don't know if the moisture will show up on my index finger but it was sopping wet.
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I don't see anything "sweeping" about mentioning three specific boats. I said I surveyed only three and those three had rotten balsa. We don't see many S3's On Lake Ontario. Below is a photo of one of them, an S2 7.9 and the core plug clearly showing rotten balsa.
Sorry, I have no desire to get into a p*ssing contest but my English comprehension is quite good. I would define, "Beware S2's ..." as sweeping... Especially when you then qualify that statement with examples of core problems while 72% of S2s cannot get a saturated core because they don't have one.

Others may interpret it differently... or did, "Beware S2's ..." refer to something other than saturated cores. If so, S2 owners would like to know.
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Sorry, I have no desire to get into a p*ssing contest but my English comprehension is quite good. I would define, "Beware S2's ..." as sweeping... Especially when you then qualify that statement with examples of core problems while 72% of S2s cannot get a saturated core because they don't have one.

Others may interpret it differently... or did, "Beware S2's ..." refer to something other than saturated cores. If so, S2 owners would like to know.
Well we could talk about other issues if you like. like this chunk of rotten plywood floor member supporting the cabin liner ...
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The one my friend has is a 9.2 aft i belive skeg rudder.. steering wheel...diesel motor ..thats all i know
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Old 16-11-2013, 17:16   #24
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Went to look at a few Catalina's and hunters today with
My cousin while he was at his boat working on it. All of them needed new mainsails etc. went back to his boat and he offered it to me for a decent price as he lived 300 miles from it and his wife
Doesn't like to sail anymore.

I am now the proud owner of a 1975 31 foot Dufor Sloop.
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Went to look at a few Catalina's and hunters today with
My cousin while he was at his boat working on it. All of them needed new mainsails etc. went back to his boat and he offered it to me for a decent price as he lived 300 miles from it and his wife
Doesn't like to sail anymore.

I am now the proud owner of a 1975 31 foot Dufor Sloop.
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A S&S Tartan 30 is a great little boat.
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Well we could talk about other issues if you like. like this chunk of rotten plywood floor member supporting the cabin liner ...
Nice diversionary tactic... I suspect that boat has been sitting with water in the hull, no? Taking a picture of a problem with an old racing boat, that has to be at least 26 years old, as evidence to avoid S2s has as much validity as if I took a picture of my not rotting interior and claiming all S2s are perfect. BTW, do 7.9 have cabin liners? I have no experience with 7.9 but most S2 don't. Are we perhaps looking at a floor support or something else?

Look, you said, "Beware S2's ... balsa core bottoms". You based that on three boats out of 4053. Most S2 don't have balsa core bottoms, period. As I said, I don't want to get into a p*ssing contest.... unsubscribing now
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Craigslist is the best in my opinion. I have an app that let's me search multiple areas...very handy.
What is that app called? Where can it be downloaded? THanks.
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I believe it's called Craigslist Pro. There is a free version, but if you pay the 1.99 or so then you can save certain searches.
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