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View Poll Results: Should political ads be shown on this website?
Never 99 81.15%
They're OK 18 14.75%
Only if it's my candidate 5 4.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2019, 11:36   #46
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What is the name of a good free ad blocker for iPhone and iPad? My vote is to never hear of Trump again!

I believe you can block the ads - but you can't block the data collection and tracking. Everything from a smartphone, to cars, to credit cards tracks us now. Not seeing the ads is a benefit, but they can still see you.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:40   #47
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I believe you can block the ads - but you can't block the data collection and tracking. Everything from a smartphone, to cars, to credit cards tracks us now. Not seeing the ads is a benefit, but they can still see you.
It’s virtually impossible to block it all — at least not while living a modern life. But online you can do some things. Ad blocking is one tool. To stop all the background snooping and data collection on websites like this I use Ghostery.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:01   #48
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Perhaps a bigger worry is the information stored on this website. A lot of very personal information is routinely shared. Is there a method that permits all of someone's posts to be deleted from the site when they no longer wish them to be here?
They're required to delete it on request of European customers. I think that law is pretty much ignored without consequence though and I doubt they'd honor it here since they're using your content to make money.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:05   #49
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Re: Let's keep politics off the forum

[QUOTE=svhydra;3011837]regarding political adds; our politics in Canada are slightly different. since our prime minister Justin trudeau legalised pot nation wide we now, by default, find our selves in the I don't care category. uhhh,: can you remind me what topic we were talking about again......[/QUOTE


Yup, same on the west coast of the US. Is that the Pacific high that everyone is talking about?
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:14   #50
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I use this forum completely free of charge. As such I don't think I have any right to demand anything of the owners, including their means of funding this place.
Another way of thinking about this, putting up a server and vBulletin board is dirt cheap, we're talking a few thousand dollars a year at most. Any of us would be happy to take over the "cost" of running this bulletin board any day....if it got us access to the content. Which is where 99% of the value is. If they paid experts like you all by the hour to create this content it would cost then millions of dollars a year. They're getting it for the cost of a few thousand dollars in website maintenance and setup and paying you nothing. So in reality you're providing them something of immense value that can't easily be replicated, making it even more valuable, and they're making money off it. They're giving you and I something that costs almost nothing and could be easily replicated. Don't forget that.
I don't begrudge them the business they built, good on them. But at the same time, I certainly don't feel that they're the ones providing us all the benefits and you and I should be forever thankful for their infinite largesse and any complaints are unseemly. It's a business, one that requires we continue to generate huge amounts of free content in order to succeed. So from a real politik perspective they need to keep the content generators happy and not forget who butters their bread and the content generators need to realize they're the ones actually creating the value here and not let the people we're monetarily supporting forget that.
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Another way of thinking about this, putting up a server and vBulletin board is dirt cheap, we're talking a few thousand dollars a year at most. Any of us would be happy to take over the "cost" of running this bulletin board any day....if it got us access to the content. Which is where 99% of the value is. If they paid experts like you all by the hour to create this content it would cost then millions of dollars a year. They're getting it for the cost of a few thousand dollars in website maintenance and setup and paying you nothing. So in reality you're providing them something of immense value that can't easily be replicated, making it even more valuable, and they're making money off it. They're giving you and I something that costs almost nothing and could be easily replicated. Don't forget that.
I don't begrudge them the business they built, good on them. But at the same time, I certainly don't feel that they're the ones providing us all the benefits and you and I should be forever thankful for their infinite largesse and any complaints are unseemly. It's a business, one that requires we continue to generate huge amounts of free content in order to succeed. So from a real politik perspective they need to keep the content generators happy and not forget who butters their bread and the content generators need to realize they're the ones actually creating the value here and not let the people we're monetarily supporting forget that.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
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Old 08-11-2019, 13:29   #52
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It's it: data = money = power

or: data = power = money

It politics and thoughts, it might be data = power = manipulation.
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Re: Let's keep politics off the forum

I have no idea what are in the replies after #3 on the thread. But

I never have never seen a political ad here because I have an ad blocker loaded
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Re: Let's keep politics off the forum

The poll related to advertisements. NB not mention of matters which arise for sailors out of political events.

Thus, to take an example, the disastrous impact of Brexit in respect of VAT. This site, along with such as the RYA, have been very helpful as to how to mitigate the consequences if so desired.

Now, there will be some dyed in the wood Brexit supporter who will take issue with me that anything about it could be disastrous. But I am not interested in sentiment. Just facts as they impact on me as a boat owner.
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I believe you can block the ads - but you can't block the data collection and tracking. Everything from a smartphone, to cars, to credit cards tracks us now. Not seeing the ads is a benefit, but they can still see you.
Adblock Plus combined with DuckDuckGo........

I still get emails however from EBay and a supermercado I frequent.... trying to sell me stuff I have already bought...

To give an example... I wanted to buy a bucket.... found online this supermercado had them for $1.50... went to town and bought one...

Six months later I was still getting emails....'You still looking for a bucket?'...... FMTT.......
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Re: Let's keep politics off the forum

Well, I can't recall ever seen a political ad on CF, so I voted "they're OK". But I can't find mustard in the fridge either. ;^)
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Re: Let's keep politics off the forum

Get ad blocker and ghosterly.

Then as some of the good people on this forum have suggested, pay some money to support this great place.

Here's the link:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/payments.php

Which reminds me, I need to make my yearly paltry donation of $15. Seriously, $15. You wast that on a couple drinks that don't give you have the info this place does.
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slight derail, but the ads posted by g00gle on CF have those little 'X' boxes in the upper right corner which allow you to give feedback on a particular ad. I'm trying to train it to stop showing those Chinese negligée ads.


(Waitaminute, can one truly see too many Chinese negligée ads? Maybe if they had more and different ads....)
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slight derail, but the ads posted by g00gle on CF have those little 'X' boxes in the upper right corner which allow you to give feedback on a particular ad. I'm trying to train it to stop showing those Chinese negligée ads.


(Waitaminute, can one truly see too many Chinese negligée ads? Maybe if they had more and different ads....)

That's how different the experience is for everybody. I wish I got negligee ads. I get battery chargers and hand tools...
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That's how different the experience is for everybody. I wish I got negligee ads. I get battery chargers and hand tools...

Honestly, I have no clue how/why they came up. My goto site for porn is Banggood.com and the pornography I browse there most often is wifi boards, meters, arduinos and kits.
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