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Old 15-09-2011, 09:48   #16
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Re: Lengthened Hulls

G'Day mate,

I think that you are being mislead here. In all my years of mucking about with boats, I've yet to see a typical production boat that had been structurally lengthened. Steel hulled one-offs, yes, and the occasional catamaran with transom extensions, but not your normal Benevarilena.

If there were such a vessel on the market I would avoid it like the plague -- grafting onto such a hull would be difficult to do structurally and disastrous fiscally.

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G'Day mate,

I think that you are being mislead here. In all my years of mucking about with boats, I've yet to see a typical production boat that had been structurally lengthened. Steel hulled one-offs, yes, and the occasional catamaran with transom extensions, but not your normal Benevarilena.

If there were such a vessel on the market I would avoid it like the plague -- grafting onto such a hull would be difficult to do structurally and disastrous fiscally.

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My thoughts also. But I just had to ask and go with experienced boat people.
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This is the boat I questioned. And I must admit, the reason I asked is because it also mistified me.

1965 Spencer Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
My reading of this suggests that the boat was built to the 45 foot length to a design that was a modification of the original 42 foot hull, modification being done by the designer.

This would be less of a worry. Designers often extrapolate on their own earlier products.

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My reading of this suggests that the boat was built to the 45 foot length to a design that was a modification of the original 42 foot hull, modification being done by the designer.

This would be less of a worry. Designers often extrapolate on their own earlier products.

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Thanks, that would not worry me so much.
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My reading of this suggests that the boat was built to the 45 foot length to a design that was a modification of the original 42 foot hull, modification being done by the designer.

This would be less of a worry. Designers often extrapolate on their own earlier products.

Cheers,

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I'll second that... reads like it was done at the Original Build... possibly at the buyers request...
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I'll second that... reads like it was done at the Original Build... possibly at the buyers request...
Well, that pretty much settles that in my mind. Thanks Boatman, your opinion is valued. I will take another look at that boat.
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Well, that pretty much settles that in my mind. Thanks Boatman, your opinion is valued. I will take another look at that boat.
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Re: Lengthened Hulls

Boats, like bedrooms are there for you to do with as you will. You can decorate them, extend them, rebuild them, whatever it takes to make it a great place to be. But you do have to consider the effect such a modification will have on a boat's performance.

By adding a 3' scoop, we extended our boat from 40' to 43'. The original hull wasn't touched, it was simply an extension. However, it altered the stern shape. Rather than the transom being a flat drop into the water, which used to cause all sorts of eddies (read resistance whilst racing), the rounded stern now slips through the water nicely, and the boat moves faster.

If considering a boat which has had major modification, it's important to get it surveyed, and to sail it in a variety of conditions to assess how the modifications have affected performance.
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Re: Lengthened Hulls

The 45' Spencer linked to was not built by the Spencer yard and doesn't have a Spencer hull number. It was built elsewhere - either by an individual (most likely) or a yard other than Spencer (least likely). It is not so much a Spencer as a John Brandlmayr design based n a Spencer 42. Spencer did not ever build a 45`sailboat. Probably the original builder asked John to extend the 42 and was sold the plans to build it on his own, as many of his designs were.

I would give the teak decks and wood house a very good inspection as they have issues on a boat that old. All Spencers had fiberglass hulls and decks - no decks were overlaid with teak.
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Re: Lengthened Hulls

It is kinda like how marinas a boat yards measure your vessel for Dollars.

How a 27 foot sailboat can become 32.....
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