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08-01-2010, 12:14
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Leave Out the V-Berth?
planning on single-handed cruising for the most part, maybe ONE other person. Still in the building phase and wondering - leave out the v-berth and build in storage lockers instead????
Got pictures?
Berths (in my current design) are basically qtr berths each side except feet under the v-berth, not under the cockpit. Keeping the pillows away from the weather.
Just looking for ideas and comments
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08-01-2010, 12:23
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Malvernshire, on the sunny side of the hill.
Boat: 50' steel canal and river cruiser
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V berths are usually a dumping area for fenders, sails etc but if you make yours into a store room, will it effect the handling?
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08-01-2010, 12:27
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Location: Sweden
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V-berths are nice in harbour or at anchor (especially with some company), but worthles at sea.
/Hampus
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08-01-2010, 12:34
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handling changes?
I'll be watching the weight issues.
Mostly by moving the planned water and holding tanks from the fore section and putting water more centrally located - no holding tanks.
And because the v-berth always ends up a holding place for thrown storage, why not plan ahead and keep things in order. PICTURES please
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08-01-2010, 12:39
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: St Augustine, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hampus
V-berths are nice in harbour or at anchor (especially with some company), but worthles at sea.
/Hampus
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How true! My Oceanis is a three cabin layout with a forward master cabin and twin aft cabins - Under sail in any kind of large seas, the forward cabin is useless and I/we use one of the aft cabins. At anchor and dockside, however, it is absolutely perfect
Re the original question: I'd worry about overloading the forward section and causing bad handling and/or hobby horsing under sail. Also, depending what's stored forward, you may have to lash them down or otherwise secure them in case of weather. If you will need to retrieve items from the forepeak in heavy conditions, you may also experience some trouble.
What type of sailboat is this?
Fair winds!
Sailndive
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08-01-2010, 12:44
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Our forward area has a pullman and cabinets forward of that.. What I did see that was really cool though, on the 38 ft Hans Christian,the MK ll series, the v berth area is a forward head and tile throughout..
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08-01-2010, 13:12
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Some of the William Garden ketches were built with a workshop where the V-berth should have been. Very clever.
/Hampus
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08-01-2010, 13:15
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update...
I'm building a Glen-L Amigo, full keel,20-foot LOD, cutter with bowsprit - 25' LOA
basically a really big cedar strip canoe.
Original interior is going to be rearranged to put head near companionway and to include locker for foulies instead of up near the V-berth
Other berth was quarter under cockpit - with pillow apt to get wet from open companionway. ALSO, possible extension for another berth by dropping dinette. Easy changes. IF I knew how to upload pics, I'd include a sketch of my changes.
I used to liveaboard and sail a 41-foot Formosa. Focsle was a small bench/berth to port with workshop shelf/storage. It worked fantastic as another bunk for the kid and a place to cram sail bags in an organized fashion.
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08-01-2010, 13:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colo.sail
I used to liveaboard and sail a 41-foot Formosa. Focsle was a small bench/berth to port with workshop shelf/storage. It worked fantastic as another bunk for the kid and a place to cram sail bags in an organized fashion.
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That's what I'm talking about!
I'd love pics!
/Hampus
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08-01-2010, 13:28
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: St Augustine, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randyonr3
Our forward area has a pullman and cabinets forward of that.. What I did see that was really cool though, on the 38 ft Hans Christian,the MK ll series, the v berth area is a forward head and tile throughout..
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I remember seeing one of these Hans Christians at a boat show - a used one - she had a sit-in size bathtub and marble tile in the forward head. Always wondered if it was a safe arrangement when a few drops of water get on the tile and make it slippery - nothing soft to fall on - seems you are guaranteed a crash landing...
All things aside, a very pretty boat indeed!
Sailndive
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08-01-2010, 13:31
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Location: abbeville la
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I am old & traditional,like nipples on men,they should be there.marc
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08-01-2010, 13:37
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Eastern Shore, MD
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You like Nipples on men?
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Originally Posted by marc2012
I am old & traditional,like nipples on men,they should be there.marc
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08-01-2010, 13:46
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Location: Australasia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colo.sail
. IF I knew how to upload pics, I'd include a sketch of my changes.
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When you're posting, click on the "attachments" button (the paper clip) and upload the picture file/s from your comp. Then close the upload window, and click on the drop-down arrow next to the attachments button. You'll see your uploaded file/s there and clicking on one will include it in your post.
Only works on normal posting - not "quick reply".
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08-01-2010, 14:02
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Location: West Coast, BC , Canada
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Could you not design something that would do both. Convert it back to a V berth when needed. or our you talking locker in the deck?
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08-01-2010, 14:05
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Location: abbeville la
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No but would look odd w/o.marc
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