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Old 26-05-2008, 11:28   #16
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What was typically found, although different boats wold have different issues, were problems at the hull to deck joints, Stress cracks at many critical points especially hardware attachment, bulkhead tabbing loose many pieces of hardware in need of replacement due to poor quality and premature wear showing. There would be several issues wit the standing rigging and its attachment points and hardware. Systems and wiring were not quite as bad but obviously the minimum needed to get by were used. Layup in the hulls were iffy. Some were done OK while others had definite oil canning due to lack of reinforcement in key areas and just not enough glass layed up in other areas. Perhaps Lancerbye avoided all of these issues but you need to be aware of them. There are too many other options out there to settle for a maybe OK boat. The Schucker is a good example. On the other hand if you plan to use this boat as a floating condo on protected water it will hold together fine for that purpose.
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Old 18-06-2008, 11:18   #17
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Interesting Chuck, I too own a Lancer 44 Motorsailer 1981 which was purchased just last summer from the previous owner. It had not been maintained very well at all for the last ten years. I had been out fishing on this same boat in the Sea of Cortez and we were caught in a powerful Northerner two years ago with high 60-70 kts winds and the boat handled very well with only one motor running. We ran 20 miles to a cove to anchor and get out of the ten to twelve foot seas and high wind. One engine was shut down earlier do to over heating (thermostate stuck) just before the wind came up. No sails up, but with one engine running at 1800 rpm the boat handled very well (being an ex-navy on-ship navigator I can relate). I recently had the boat hauled and bottom repainted, not one blister was one the bottom. No signs of canning or stress on the hull were evident. In fact a very very (old) seasoned surveyor that saw the boat out of the water could not believe the excellent overall condition of the boat and quality of the hull. Granted, as an older boat there are issues that need to be addressed, some of which you mentioned, but fiberglass heals a lot of above-deck problems (and below deck if needed). Not one of which I have examined so far that cannot easily and fairly cheaply be repaired, reinforced, or cosmetically fixed. I have owned serval older boats and a couple new ones, and helped many others refit older boats and I challenge anyone who buys an older boat that has not been kept in absolute prestine condition by the previous owner to not be reqiired to spend some time, effort and money to bring these old boats up to a nearer to new condition. Several other motorsailers I looked at before making an offer on this one, even the one named above as a preferred, needed a lot of work and refit to bring them up to an acceptable quality level.

However, for the money, quality (some of us see in a Lancer Motorsailer), and operation, the Lancer Motorsaier is very hard to beat. My Opinon, Don
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Old 19-06-2008, 16:37   #18
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And if you'd like a really cool Schucker, then please buy mine.
Schucker 50 GOLDIE: Pilothouse Motorsailer for sale
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Old 10-11-2008, 13:56   #19
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"the worst production boat ever built"...That's a pretty broad statement. I have seen a few Hunters...Well anyway...We keep a Lancer 28 shoal draft sloop on a trailer in Mexico and use her to cruise the Sea Of Cortez. I paid $10K for her (in Mexico) which included a new 10hp long shaft Mercury 4-stroke engine. Yes, the portlights are crap and leak badly as do most of the deck fittings. But she's sea-worthy and sails nicely and has done everything I have asked her to do. Would I take her out on the open ocean on a thousand mile passage? Heck no! But that was never my intension..
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Old 22-11-2008, 20:07   #20
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Yea I'm new too

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So some of you remind me of grade school, remember Beatles or Beach Boys. Different bands focused on completely different geographics. What your wife wants first for her comfort then what you can afford...... That's what matters.
Doesnt matter,, go with what you got. maintain it like your life depended upon it. If you got the courage to leave, sell the house & cars and go. Otherwise watch local TV and write this stuff. Nothing matters about your stupid boat. Know your boat and it's likes and dislikes. Stop being stupid. You can transverse the world in a boat made of milk cartons, if you can maintain them. Boat has nothing to do with it, you do. I suggest you go in comfort, so the Lancer is a great choice. Ignore people who want to scare you. Dont be a wimp because life is to short. Live your dreams and ignore the folks who give you reason to doubt yourself. They are in there house and giving their advise MAYBE based on some fact lived out years ago, before electronics. I would take a 42/44 Lancer anywhere. Sorry about the freeks. Same people I dealt with buying a Bayliner 2452. I was told it was a piece o f#%*@ in the chat rooms. So guess what, I have had that boat all over the southwest. Beating into swells at 22 knots and doing all the things they say I cant do. Funny thing is it has the same power plant as the expensive power boats have.
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Old 22-11-2008, 20:43   #21
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say what? someone has been inhaling too much exhaust.
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Old 23-11-2008, 08:48   #22
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Yea Chuck, gasoline for now because it gets me there quicker! Sorry about the rant, it's just that I havent seen the list of sunk boats by name brand. Thanks for not grading my spelling or grammer :->
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Old 16-06-2009, 01:52   #23
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We have had our 1981 Lancer 44 for some 12+ years and she has been a wonderful boat. When we purchased her from the 2nd owner in Casifornia we had an extensive survey and she passed with flying colors. The only real problem we have had was with the big 185hp Perkins (yes 2) that we replaced with twin Yanmar 200hp 4 cylender engines a couple of years ago. The Perkins were just to big and were impossible to work on because of the physical size of the engines and the ever present English oli leaks that are standard equipment. After we had had the boat for approx. five years, the owner that we bought if from called and wanted to buy it back in the worst way -- she was not for sale then and she is still not for sale! Some of the late production (around 1986) boats the were produced when Lancer Yachts were going bankrupt were of questionable quality, but not all of them. In the early years of our ownrship I had a Lancer owner's web site called "The Lancer Yacht Connection" and was not made aware of anyone that had serious problems. While probably not of the "pureist" of sailors we found that 10 ft. following seas in the Straits of Gerogia were best handled by powering with the bow handing over the lead wave which is quite comfotable -- you have to have the power to due this, and we do (MaryMar will do 18+ knts. under power - the guys in the marina call her a "wanta-be sail boat", but we love her just he same!) Good luck with search.
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Old 26-04-2012, 22:34   #24
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Re: Lancer Motorsailer

Yep, I genuinely concur - naturally any option should be qualified and offer a fair review by one's peers.

Q: Exactly what (or whats - plurl) EXACTLY (pls) was wrong with the vessel. I have seen two (2) up close and participated in the survey on one - and yes, found some problems, but the value (boat / $) took care of any real concerns I would have. And, also, pls look at the 72 Lancer and compare it's parts with the 42 Lancer (lots are the same, wow.)
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The Lancer line of boats was one of the poorest production boats ever put together. Cross it off your list and find one of the thousands of other boats available on the market to fit your needs.
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Could you detail what makes the Lancer a poor boat? Are all models and years poor? Any other info you deem relevant? Thank you,
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Hi,
Could you detail what makes the Lancer a poor boat? Are all models and years poor? Any other info you deem relevant? Thank you,
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I didn't see all the answers to my question before i posted...Please ignore, sorry....
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