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Old 17-09-2009, 01:48   #16
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If you do have a 3 cabin boat wouldn't the storage problems be solved by removing the mattress and converting it to a store room. .
Yes, in deed. But we use our lazarette for the rolled up dink, 8 deisel gerries and 'outside' stores.

Some boats (the Bene 423 and 473 and 523) have access to the lazarrette from the cockpit of the galley.

But you are quite correct, an extra cabin can be converted
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Old 17-09-2009, 06:55   #17
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That is a nice looking layout for a couple with occassional guests.
Couldn't agree with you more. The pullman berth is a bit narrow unless you still have the body you had when you were 17. We started out sleeping there but moved to the aft berth where we have lots of room for sleeping as well as stowing cases of beer.
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Old 17-09-2009, 07:11   #18
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But I still dont see where you can fit a Jacuzzi




Guess what that is! Now guess the boat and the location of it on the boat!!!! And DON'T cheat by looking at the hot link lol
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Guess what that is! Now guess the boat and the location of it on the boat!!!! And DON'T chat by looking at the hot link lol

I know, its the storage / ice chest for the beer that you keep in your main cabin. It doesnt have the water/air jets for a proper bath/jacuzzi
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It doesnt have the water/air jets for a proper bath/jacuzzi
Ohhhh yes it does!

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I wonder what they chucked out to fit it in? The water tank? LOLOL
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Old 30-11-2010, 01:17   #21
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The reason charter boats have the galley along a side of the main saloon is that they can then put in two aft cabins. This configuration is very poor for cruising. I would not buy a boat without a good secure station at the galley where the cook can tuck in.
And charterers generally don't cook at sea, so this is a reasonable solution for a charter boat. But the galley right in the salon has another disadvantage -- honey, I shrunk the salon! It's a sign of the boat's interior having been jammed up in the center to allow absolute maximum sleeping space. It's not good for an owner's boat, IMHO.

But for a charter boat it's fine, since these are generally rented in good weather where you don't really spend much time in the salon anyway.

Both the cruising boats I've lived with have had good sea-galleys. Both U-shaped so you can jam yourself in without using a strap. Now if someone would just invent gimballed counter-tops . . . .

A powered exhaust fan is an awfully nice thing to have in your galley. Gets rid of the products of combustion (very wet in the case of butane, because of the large hydrogen content of the fuel) as well as cooking smells.
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The long galley is more a European thing from the 60's/70's.. most larger Westerly's (26ft+) had them... also many Frech boats... my old Longbow had it on the stbd side.. starting fwd was cooker then sink and fridge/icebox... then C/table and quarter berth.. I relly liked it... at sea I'd park my butt on the table and get along just fine..
A Dutch friend who bought a 45ft Cheoy Lee Clipper gutted the saloon and did a similar thing with a full size domestic gas (converted) cooker and gas Fridge...
worked a treat and they were well happy with the layout..
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so the freeport 41 and the gulfstar50 with long galley in the walkthru is from a french design?? ok i am now informed...LOL...i kinda like that-- but i like the U shaped galley best... wish i had that option in my formosa--i have a tiny galley--i get to use my companionway ladder and my dinette table when i need to cook a lot for many---is challenging, at times..but i DO have a strap to hold me from flying around like a unbroomed witch..LOL
havent considered a vent with fan yet-- i like my cooking smells and i use propane--not much wet in my air---cookin gsmells really dont stay in my boat long-- air flows thru quite nicely--this winter is waaay tooo nicely...

now , where can i fit that jet spa t ub in my formosa-----
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Our Stevens 47 has the galley laid out in a straight line on the port side of the boat, with the sinks in the middle and the stove outboard and still near the main companionway and hatch. The amount of space between both sides of the galley is such that "wedging" oneself in place in heavy seas is both simple and safe, there are also ample hand-holds. The ability to walk through makes access easier and in general gives a more flowing floor plan that results in less traffic jams or crowding.

Given a choice, I would take the in-line layout in my boat over any U shaped galley I have experience with. The U galleys are too confined or restricted.

As for a U galley being better in heavy seas, first off I don't think it necessarily is (not as compared to my boat) and I think the overwhelming majority of sailors in a heavy sea are not going to be doing serious cooking.

This is one of those "issues" that matters far more on a BBS than in the real world. What percentage of the time cruising will spent at seas as opposed to at anchor? Lets say you sail alot and spend 20% of your time actually under way. Now, what percentage of that time is spent in heavy seas? Probably a fairly small amount.

My point is that putting a huge emphasis on a U shaped galley, that may not really be better at all, is putting a key emphasis on something that may benefit you less than 1% of the time. I would suggest you would be better off focusing on aspects of the boat that effect the 99% instead.



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If the sink is on the port side or starboard side it will not drain well or not at all when heeled over on the side of the sink. If heeled way over water could enter the boat. Center line sink placement is the way to go I think. I believe that is why a u shaped galley is a good choice for cruisers + its easier to strap yourself in when sailing.
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my formosa has galley sink on starboard side. the drain goes straight down, to nearer the keel, under water line--- the water is sukked out as the boat sails. the angle of heel has nothing to do with draining the sink on my boat.
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Your lucky ZEEHAG. Not all boats are designed poorly. I should have said that in my post THe boats of poor layout/design could have sink drain problems and in general a centerline sink will drain better on any heel, of coarse the sink could be installed below the waterline I guess. In that case there would be other problems coming up first.
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Why is the galley supposed to be on the port side? .....let the newby jokes begin...:-)
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The Freeport 41 is my galley design, not taken from any French design.
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Why is the galley supposed to be on the port side? .....let the newby jokes begin...:-)
Hmmm was wondering that myself. Most of my boats had the galley on the stbd side. Only one has had it to port.

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