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Old 04-03-2010, 09:47   #76
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I like this one.. And the view we would always see trying to keep up..
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How do you get pictures of your boat sailing?

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I like this one.. And the view we would always see trying to keep up..
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Taken by marooned ex-crew?
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I like this one.. And the view we would always see trying to keep up..
Actually, the sail trim is horrible in that photo ;-) It was taken off the coast of Venezuela and we just rigged a brand new set of sails and battens in Trinidad. If you look at the wrinkles you see that they end at the batten positions on the leech. I found the battens too stiff even though they were the same type as the old ones. I had them over-tensioned in an attempt to break them in somewhat. After some high wind passages we got to Curacao and I checked it all out again. They were indeed less stiff and for some I didn't even need to reduce tension. It was a lot of work because we have 13 full battens in total and you have to hoist/lower the sails for every one so that you can adjust them.

This is how it looked after we left Aruba, no wrinkles at the same wind angle (click the photo for a bigger one):


When you click it for the big photo, you can also clearly see the chafing patches for the spreaders for each reef position. In the lower sections, the seams are visible (all sails are tri-radial cut) and the huge reinforcements in the leech at the clew and reef positions (they almost touch each other).
You can even see me taking your picture... snap! got you!! ;-))

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Is it an optical illusion or is the mizzen raked back more than the main mast?
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Is it an optical illusion or is the mizzen raked back more than the main mast?
It has more rake. When we have a lot of upwind sailing ahead of us we rake it even more. This is common for ketches. I've seen photo's of historic ketches (like from the 1800's) that were much more drastic than anything seen today.

Ketches that have a triatic stay don't change the mizzen rake because of the trouble with the triatic stay this causes. The mizzen is raked for avg. performance in that case.

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I would like to get one of those Kite camera rigs though..But then again dunking around with cameras is a hobby of mine as well...
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What is the benefit of the triadic stay...I don't have one and I have wondered about that...The one pitfall I can see in having one is if the main goes so will the mizzen more then likely.
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I hate everything related to a triatic stay. It's not just that it will take the good mast with it when the other mast comes down because that shouldn't happen that often... how about all the birds sitting on it shitting down on the boat, or the tuning of it.

I think they use it as a forestay for the (top part of the) mizzen or even as a backstay for the main or both but I don't really want to know ;-)

I have two mizzen forestays that attach at the mast where the upper spreaders are. The top section is supported by a diamond stay using a single forward pointing spreader. It's clearly visible in the photo I posted above. With a triatic stay, I wouldn't need that I guess.

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Just thought I would advise that I have split the discussion about hank on sails v furled to another thread. See,

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/hank-on-sails-vs-furler-37319.html
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OK, all fine, but how many cruisers do take the drum below deck? It is also about being able to see forward below the foot of the fore sail.

I would also say that a good hank-on or hankless jib will beat the furling sail hands down (e.g. when we consider the shape, the wind spectrum vs. cloth weight etc) but ...

BUT:

I have seen many more very well cut and trimmed furling sails on cruising boats than I have seen hank-ons/

So, in the cruising aspect, I would say the (unfurled ;-)) furling sail beats the hanks-on.

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OK, I don't know much about all this technical stuff, but I love my Ketch. She is easy and fun to sail, and I know she will take us anywhere in the world we want to go. Oh, and she is BEAUTIFUL!
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Now you've gone and done it! Pictures please...
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My avatar is the first sail we had on her and is the best (only) picture we have of her under sail.
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