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Old 23-11-2015, 10:11   #1
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Ketch sailors tips

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I have just bought a ketch a Carbineer 46 well actually its a Carberneer 46 built in Australia . Im currently doing all the work one needs to do on a new secondhand boat. Including fitting new sails etc. i have asked the sailmaker to make me a mizzen staysail or mizzen spinaker sail is what it really is .
I have read that these sails perform very well so im keen to see how it goes. My previous boat was a sloop so I have a bit to learn about Ketch's . I welcome any sailing tips & comments aimed at getting the best out of a ketch along with any other tips from experienced Ketch sailors.
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Old 23-11-2015, 10:42   #2
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Re: Ketch sailors tips

Our ketch came with a mizzen staysail but we never rigged her up. If I remember correctly (dubious) I think the sheet was to be led to the aft end of the mizzen boom. This article says that this one skipper rigged his that way so may be I remember correctly.

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We do have a picture of our boat from the PO with her mizzen staysail and spinnaker up. Beautiful!!
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I often tack a mizzen staysail to the windward shrouds . This opens the slot, but can cause the luff to foul on the backstay, depending on the luff sag. Fit some antichafe to the luff, where it crosses the backstay.

Definitely worth sheeting the mizen. Staysail of the mizzen. Boom if possible, so a higher cut clew is good. Certainly a usefully sail in light airs. A good rig is just a drifter or mps and the miz staysail.

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I often tack a mizzen staysail to the windward shrouds . This opens the slot, but can cause the luff to foul on the backstay, depending on the luff sag. Fit some antichafe to the luff, where it crosses the backstay.

Definitely worth sheeting the mizen. Staysail of the mizzen. Boom if possible, so a higher cut clew is good. Certainly a usefully sail in light airs. A good rig is just a drifter or mps and the miz staysail.

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My sailmaker wasn't keen on sheeting to the mizzen boom ( don't know why) although all the photos i found on the net show this is the most common method. He wants to sheet to a very large mooring post on the deck. So your saying to sheet to the mizzen we have to cut the sail differently to the drawing.
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Weird that the sail maker deosnt want to sheet it off the boom, though for close reaching its better steeted to the deck. Ideally it can be sheeted to both. I also not he has drawn it tacked to the centerline which isn't normal either. Normally they run pretty low halyard tensions with lots of luff sag. Just make sure the mast is up to a tight luffed sail if that's the way you're going.

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Weird that the sail maker deosnt want to sheet it off the boom, though for close reaching its better steeted to the deck. Ideally it can be sheeted to both. I also not he has drawn it tacked to the centerline which isn't normal either. Normally they run pretty low halyard tensions with lots of luff sag. Just make sure the mast is up to a tight luffed sail if that's the way you're going.

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I have sent him an email asking a few questions .
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something like this is what I've normally done, but for reaching a more efficient shape might be faster.
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This what i had in mind, similar sized boat & rig .
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I like this thats a lot of sail lol
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Now we are talking.. better ask your sailmaker if he can make you a blooper as well!
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