Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-12-2012, 12:39   #1
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,342
Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Anyone seen this boat in the flesh? has properly built fin keel cruising boat finally arrived?
Blue Jacket 40 (BJ40) Performance Sailing Yacht | BlueJacketYachts.com
__________________

__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2012, 12:58   #2
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Whoa. Did not know about this one. Interesting.

b.
__________________

__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2012, 16:54   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sailing the Caribbean
Boat: Switch 51
Posts: 1,498
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Was not aware of it either. Had an IP, loved it. This should be a good boat.
__________________
SVNeko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2012, 17:00   #4
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2005
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 4,567
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Hard to see how the IP brand lends itself to a performance boat like this. A long way from an IP of the same size. Not a lot of tankage for a true cruiser, but enough. Turn one of those aft doubles into a garage and you'd have storage enough. Can't imagine tbe shoal draft 5'2" would perform anywhere near the std 7'6" keel. I wonder what the PHRF rating is for the std keel model. Looks fast.
__________________
Paul L
http://svjeorgia.blogspot.com
Paul L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21-12-2012, 16:50   #5
Registered User
 
deluxe68's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 581
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul L View Post
Hard to see how the IP brand lends itself to a performance boat like this. A long way from an IP of the same size. Not a lot of tankage for a true cruiser, but enough. Turn one of those aft doubles into a garage and you'd have storage enough. Can't imagine tbe shoal draft 5'2" would perform anywhere near the std 7'6" keel. I wonder what the PHRF rating is for the std keel model. Looks fast.
That is why they are marketing it under the "Blue jacket" name. It will probably have the same rating as a Tartan 40.
__________________
deluxe68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-12-2012, 17:31   #6
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,828
Images: 25
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul L View Post
Hard to see how the IP brand lends itself to a performance boat like this......l. Looks fast.
I agree, IP has shot itself in the foot with this one.
It looks like a production boat but with an IP price tag. Silly of them to try to compete where the market is saturated. Could have started building larger IPs. Theres plenty of rich Americans who would love an IP 60 or 65. Oyster and Swan are well over 100 feet now.
But IP want to smack their heads into Beneteau. Probably more the First series than Oceanis, but i note it displaces exactly the same as mine.
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-12-2012, 18:08   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Oriental, NC
Boat: Mainship Pilot 34
Posts: 1,429
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

I think it makes a lot of sense. Tim Jackett, after he left Tartan wanted to do something like build a new performance cruiser. There are only 5-6 production sailboat builders left in the United States so Tim looked around and cut a deal with Bob Johnston to build the boat at IP's Largo, Fl shop. Tim would design it and it would be jointly marketed but not under the IP umbrella.

It looks different enough from the B/C/Hs but maybe not diffferent enough from the Tartan and Sabres to sell. But since there is no dedicated shop, the overhead is low so who cares.

I wish them luck. It might catch on.

David
__________________
djmarchand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-12-2012, 19:56   #8
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2005
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 4,567
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand View Post
I think it makes a lot of sense. Tim Jackett, after he left Tartan wanted to do something like build a new performance cruiser. There are only 5-6 production sailboat builders left in the United States so Tim looked around and cut a deal with Bob Johnston to build the boat at IP's Largo, Fl shop. Tim would design it and it would be jointly marketed but not under the IP umbrella.

It looks different enough from the B/C/Hs but maybe not diffferent enough from the Tartan and Sabres to sell. But since there is no dedicated shop, the overhead is low so who cares.

I wish them luck. It might catch on.

David
So for IP this works to keep the factory full? And doesn't dilute the brand?
__________________
Paul L
http://svjeorgia.blogspot.com
Paul L is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 05:08   #9
CF Adviser
Moderator Emeritus
 
Hud3's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
Posts: 8,929
Images: 49
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

From the website....
Quote:
The Blue Jacket 40 is the first in a series and has been designed by Tim Jackett (ex-President and Chief Designer at Tartan and C&C) in collaboration with Bob Johnson (CEO and Chief Designer at Island Packet). With 15 Boat of the Year award-winning designs between them, the new Blue Jacket 40 embodies the creativity and broad-based experience these noted designers have displayed over the past 30 plus years, melding the performance prowess of Jackett with the cruising focus and manufacturing acumen of Johnson and Island Packet.
It's pretty clear that the IP connection is hinged primarily on IP's reputation for top quality construction. I can tell you firsthand that it is exceptional.

We bought our IP 380 new and didn't have a single issue with the factory/construction aspect. Over the course of our ownership, we got first-class service and responsiveness from the factory as well. They go well beyond what any reasonable person has a right to expect.
__________________
Hud
Hud3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 10:28   #10
Registered User
 
svHyLyte's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa Bay area, USA
Boat: Beneteau First 42
Posts: 3,423
Images: 25
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

It looks like a handsome yacht but there doesn't seem to be a good sea-berth anywhere. Curvy "couches" look "nice" in plans and brochures but are poor for sleeping, No?
__________________
"It is not so much for its beauty that the Sea makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something, that quality of air, that emanation from the waves, that so wonderfully renews a weary spirit."
svHyLyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 11:45   #11
Senior Cruiser
 
Vasco's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore" Ben393 "Breathless"
Posts: 7,133
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

They've taken the best of two worlds from Tartan and IP and put them together and, in my view, we end up having a boat that's the worst of two worlds. Not a cruiser, not a racer. And I bet it's going to be pricey. Cruisers who go around the cans don't mind not having a racer. Their primary concern is cruising and they can always blame the rating. . Racers, on the other hand, will not have anything that smacks of a cruiser. IP has quite a following, don't think they'll go for this boat. Racers will still stick to the C&C's from Tartan. So what's the market for this boat?
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/beneteau393/
Vasco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 12:09   #12
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,342
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

I think there are cruisers that want a performance boat. But many of those are marginally built. Heck, there are Beneteau, Hunter and Catalina blue water cruisers on this forum. If they want to move to a better boat, but not loose much performance and like a more modern design, It may be a Niche for them. Hard to say how it will s ell though for sure...like you said, new boats are all expensive. If they can price it only slightly above the other lightly built production boats, and build it strong, it ought to be a winner.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 14:58   #13
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
(...) Heck, there are Beneteau, Hunter and Catalina blue water cruisers on this forum. If they want to move to a better boat, but not loose much performance and like a more modern design, It may be a Niche for them. (...)
Yep. But only IF:

- it is better,
- its price is somewhere in the range of a Bene, Hunter or Cat buyer (which, as we can read on their site, is not the case!).

The same mistake done by so many boatbuilders: they want their Hallberg Rassy to sell in quantities sold by Bavaria, preferably at prices of an Oyster. Wishful thinking. I am not buying a HR that delaminates, neither do I desire an IP with a fin keel.

And why an avenue boom with an inmast furling main? Or is it just the renderings gone berserk?

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 16:43   #14
Registered User
 
deluxe68's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 581
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
Yep. But only IF:

- it is better,
- its price is somewhere in the range of a Bene, Hunter or Cat buyer (which, as we can read on their site, is not the case!).

The same mistake done by so many boatbuilders: they want their Hallberg Rassy to sell in quantities sold by Bavaria, preferably at prices of an Oyster. Wishful thinking. I am not buying a HR that delaminates, neither do I desire an IP with a fin keel.

And why an avenue boom with an inmast furling main? Or is it just the renderings gone berserk?

b.
What is the price?
__________________
deluxe68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-12-2012, 17:02   #15
Registered User
 
deluxe68's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 581
Re: Island Packet Blue Jacket 40

I just got the price, $389K for the base boat. Ballast a little light for my taste in an offshore boat.
__________________

__________________
deluxe68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:20.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.