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04-11-2015, 11:27
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Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
I am considering a 1979 Tayana 42' cutter versus a 1995 Island Packet 40 cutter. I am looking for a boat that I would be confident sailing offshore as well as coastal cruising. Any thoughts on these two boats?
Thanks, Dave:
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04-11-2015, 13:38
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
IP 40
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04-11-2015, 13:48
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Thanks for the IP 40 feedback (endorsement). Can you share reasons why you would choose the IP over the Tayana? Thanks so much.
Dave
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04-11-2015, 14:00
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Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Both are quality ocean-going vessels, but a bit different in design. The IP has a longer full keel that might give it more stablity at sea. Tayana might be a bit faster and point a little better. I’d say it’s a tossup.
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04-11-2015, 14:07
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Thanks, again, for the feedback. From what I have read, the Tayana would be a more responsive boat for overall points of sail - especially better beating into the wind. Some say the full-length keel on the IP makes it a bit more sluggish. Both boats, however, seem ready and willing to take on "blue water" sailing. Any structural concerns on either boat?
Dave
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04-11-2015, 14:10
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
I have sailed the IP 40 in gale weather but not the Tayana. I was comfortable in a short-handed situation. The staysil on a boom was very useful. I had a hurricane to my back that we were running from. Another time I was in a tacking contest in the Chesapeake. Surprised the competition, who thought the IP was a dog upwind (like many people). Quality build. I am not sure what else I can say except sail both of them and pick the one you want.
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04-11-2015, 14:11
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Good advice. Thanks so much.
Dave
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04-11-2015, 14:18
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
I looked at an IP yesterday. Very nice tank of a boat. It looked like it would not be easy getting into and out of the water on that boat. Like if you wanted to swim.
If getting into the water to swim is not high on your list I would pick the IP.
I meet a couple that lived and sailed for 14 years on an Endevor 42. They recommended an IP 35.
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04-11-2015, 14:19
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
I once saw an IP 40 that was t-boned by a fast moving sport fisherman in the Chesapeake Bay. The boat was badly damaged, but not enough to sink her, and it was subsequently repaired. I've also visited the IP factory and saw firsthand the quality of their boat building.
But then again, I'm an owner, so I'm biased.
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04-11-2015, 14:27
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Thanks for the feedback. Swimming is an interest, so I hope to get an ocean worthy boat that either has a swim/boarding platform or a good ladder...
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04-11-2015, 15:01
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
The IP had a solid ladder so I am sure you could get into and out of water but not as easy as say the much less of a boat like the Beneteau's with that really cool swim platform.
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04-11-2015, 15:01
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Look at some Oysters of the same size and vintage.
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04-11-2015, 15:08
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
Both are great boats. I love my 1989 Tayana V42 aft cockpit. I'm the fourth or fifth owner and I've had her for 15+ years. I coastal cruise and have been living aboard for 3 years. Have sailed safely in 45 knots and 8-12 ft seas. The boat is very well built and strongly fitted. All rigging and fittings are oversized and high quality. She is definitely designed and built to be a world cruiser. 150 gallons of water and 130 of diesel. Gorgeous interior woodwork that always draws oohs and aahs from other sailors. The cutter rig with staysail on boom is a joy to sail short handed. I find her to be surprisingly fast on the wind for a cruising boat. Not so downwind but that is because I don't use any light air or downwind sails, just the three working sails. Over all she is beautiful, safe, strong, large enough for adequate tankage, with lots of room for stowage.
I also love Island Packets. If I ever sell my Tayana and move up I would buy one of the larger IPs. I fell in lust with a used 485 at a boat show.
In my opinion you have chosen two great solid boats. With any used boat it comes down to condition, maintenance, and up-grades.
S/V B'Shert
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04-11-2015, 15:52
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
The older IP's with the standard ladder are very difficult to climb up that ladder from the water, impossible with dive gear. The issue is there are almost no rungs under the water, you need at least three rungs under the water to make a ladder easy to climb, and the stock ladder isn't up to climbing up with dive gear structually. I believe it's a good ladder for climbing out of a dinghy.
That ladder is on my list to have up-graded.
Newer IP's like say 350, 380 etc, have a sort of Sugar Scoop, but be advised that scoop comes out of the length of the boat, so a 380 is actually a 35 with the scoop added, and is a smaller boat than a 38.
I would think the age difference in those boats is pretty substantual, and I assume they are not similarly priced?
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04-11-2015, 18:19
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Re: Island Packet 40 vs Tayana 42
That's helpful. Yes, the Tayana is half the price and has had a lot of upgrades. The ladder issue is something to consider on the IP. Maybe I should broaden my search a bit...
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