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Old 28-06-2013, 09:02   #16
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Re: i need to replace my.... thing?

Run a halyard.
It can be wood or aluminum but wood will be easier to match the original curves so it will look right. I would do stainless before aluminum.
Those little tabs next to the steps never held any rigging, they're not even close to strong enough.
I think it's called a pushpit.
Keep it, it makes a great dinghy davit which you will really really want when you start cruising.
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Old 28-06-2013, 09:14   #17
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this could be my time to make this into a dingy lift eh?
perhaps extend it more, make the bottom struts solid and add some blocks.
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Old 28-06-2013, 09:50   #18
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i had wondered that myself.
i cant for the life of me figure out what the two solid loops are on the stern by the steps are. perhaps where is was originally rigged?
of course, there are many mystery's i find every day on this yacht.

and i think my height above the water is 55'. both mast are the same height.
If she has had a re-rig (and especially if plenty of strange ideas onboard from a PO) I would get a rigger to look at the entire rig - and he might even suggest can get rid of the mizzen! (per your earlier thread Why do I have a Mizzen?).

Would also be very informative to know what her original rig was (or that of any sister ships) - not all changes by PO's are for the better! Could be that she was originally a sloop (or sister ships had that option), maybe the PO made compromises in the rig (shorter main mast and the addition of a full height Mizzen) simply to achieve less air draft because in his location (no idea about yours!) that was uber important.

Personally I would be looking to get rid of the bar and bring the aft stays back onboard......even at the price of losing a few feet off the Mizzen! Although hard to tell, but from my squint at one of your pics in the other thread the boom on the main mast looks shorter than it could easily be and still look "right", but of course I ain't no expert!

Also just to say that I would not rely on simply a rigger when making major changes (they come with all manner of skillsets - a lot will be good at replacing like for like) - will need someone who can "read" the entire boat, perhaps a yacht designer?

I think that bottom curved bar has no structural importance whatsoever (but don't take my word for it!), maybe it is there to stop the bathing platform snagging on stuff - or just to make it look pretty (obviously when heeled you don't want a full width solid bathing platform as would act as brake / disturb the water flow).

Funnily enough the thought had crossed my mind to add pretty much what I am suggesting you remove!, not to fix any rigging to but simply as a platform to extend my aft deck (me also a ketch, with an aft cabin and a bit of an aftdeck already - but at 30' a couple of extra feet might come in handy, albeit not sure what for exactly!). For that (as load bearing) would need stainless steel and underbracing - even if never intended it to be load bearing the odds are strong that one day it would, if only you!)......my inspiration was the local fishing (potting) boats who have same to carry their pots. Likely never happen though!

Boats is all about puzzling stuff out .
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Old 28-06-2013, 09:56   #19
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here is one sister ship.
as it was explained to me the sailing rig, as is the floor layout, entirely custom to the original buyer. that's how i got 3 staterooms, 2 heads, and a lazerette, and two navigation stations.
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Old 28-06-2013, 09:58   #20
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Re: i need to replace my.... thing?

how about a side view of your boat so we can see how your thinghy is rigged
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Old 28-06-2013, 10:00   #21
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Old 28-06-2013, 10:02   #22
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I just don't get the mizzen mast on that boat.......
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I'd call it a boomkin (BUM-kin) until someone corrected me. Someone said it's for a mizzen, so it can't be loaded much statically. I'd just relax the backstays, and wiggle things around to see if it can be removed without temporary standing rigging, maybe just a line from the boom down to the swim step.
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Old 28-06-2013, 10:13   #25
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I'd call it a boomkin (BUM-kin)
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Whoa! Just saw the latest photo. Are you sure that's a mizzen?
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Looks on the schoonerish side of the scale.



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I have just been using a ruler on my PC screen to gauge the proportions between your rig and the sister ship!

The main mast looks exactly the same (height and location on deck and spreaders)....I am not even sure the boom is any longer on the sister ship! (obviously hard for me to be exact!). If you can get some measurements for the sister ship (original sailplan drawings or simply an owner with a tape measure!) then will know for sure. If they are both the same and especially if the builder made a few like the sister ship and the owners are happy enough with performance then I would remove the Mizzen! (store it ashore for a season or 2), I would even do that if the boom is a foot short on yours, just to see how she handles before splashing out on a longer boom (welding a bit on?!) and a new mainsail.

If you do keep the mizzen as is, then from these pics I can kinda see why the aft stays are on that bar....nonetheless (if the boat were mine) I would still be curious to know what a rigger thinks.
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Old 28-06-2013, 10:41   #29
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Re: i need to replace my.... thing?

with the other thread, i have fallen in love with the idea of the wind rudder.
i mean, if my steering gear stops working for whatever reason, i can keep going under full sail power for the rest of the voyage.
yes, it would be awesome to ditch, and put a hard dodger over the cockpit.
i am tempted, but i do not have the money, after buying her for cash, to have a new main sail made.
i have many ideas what to do with that area...
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Looks on the schoonerish side of the scale.



thats it!!! i could add more sails!!!
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