that was solid reply...thank you! If in your mind, i should stay away from "production boats" what would you recommend. Like i said i do have some what of a budget
. but am not apposed to going a little smaller. My wife and i really don't have much stuff as it is. everything that i own already fits in my VW vanagon. ANY non-productions boats would be greatly appreciated.
I found a "list" im gonna share but i dont know how accurate it is:
Boats to Consider for Offshore
Updated January 2008
Through our Weekend Offshore
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32, 42, 48 * USA
Superb quality, expensive. Chuck Paine designs.
33 * USA
Good value, well built
35 * USA
Early f /g boats. Well proven, not expensive.Narrow, short waterlines, graceful overhangs.
38, 43, 44, 46, 48, 54, 58 USA
Classy, well built, beautiful & expensive.
30, 32, 33, 35, 36, 39, 42 * USA
Good value. Functional, practical.
36 53 www.amel.fr FRA
Strong, well designed. Excellent passagemaker, great value. Low maintenance
29, 37, 44 * CAN Steel
boats, attractive modern designs.
43 * FRA
Waquiez built, strong & roomy with good storage
design, but great boat and good
28 * USA
Every boat built by Morris is a work of art!
29, 30 32, 40 * CAN
Good value. A bit “plasticy” interiors but ok.
60 * USA
Modern, top quality Chuck Paine design.
36 58 * ENG
Strong boats. Excellent passagemakers.
42 * CAN
Improved version of Whitby 42.
27 45 * USA
Good boats. Later models were better quality.
Bristol Channel Cutter
Well built, not my personal choice. Good company.
36 * CAN
Ted Brewer design
2 30, 34, 36, 39, 40, 2 46, 3 46, 48 * USA
Bill Lapworth designs. Many 2-46’s have circumnavigated.
Comfortable, reasonably priced but look very carefully at bulkhead attachment.
28, 33, 35, 38, 40 www.caliberyacht.com USA
Fairly well built. Michael McCreary designs.
The 47 is not an attractive boat.
40, 44, 46 * USA
Fast, well built, gorgeous and expensive.
31, 32, 35, 38, 39, 40, 43, 47, 56, 58, 70 * ENG
Out of business except for shipbuilding.
Watch for serious blister problems on all models.
34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 45, 47, www.caborico.com CRI
Crelock and Paine designs. Expensive, semi custom.
all models * USA
All models are well designed & built.
Cape George Cutters
31, 36, 38 USA
Some owner completed. Strong & fast. Sometimes great value.
36, 42 USA
1965-67 design still being built. Narrow. Many owner-finished.
Centurion by Wauquiez
(not Beneteau) 36-59 FRA
Centurion’s built before Wauquiez sold to Beneteau
but w/limited tankage. Later Beneteau-built models are not appropriate or impressive
except for dockside living.
44, 48, 62 * USA
Semi custom boats. Beautiful, great sailing& expensive
26 & 32 * CAN, ENG
Tania Aebi & B.J. Caldwell both circumnavigated in 26's.
31, 35, 36, 38, 40, 41, 42, 44, 46, 48, 55, 60 www.contestyacts.com HOL
More common in Europe
Well built, new boats are very attractive.
44 by Pearson * USA
Ancient John Alden design.
39 * CAN
Roomy and strong, but watch for hull blisters
31, PH 32, 34, 37, 40, 44 by Pacific Seacraft * USA
Good value and well built. Graceful overhangs,
canoe sterns, short waterlines means these boats may hobbyhorse upwind.
37, 44 * USA
Sturdy, roomy & reasonably priced but old.
24 by Pacific Seacraft USA
An solid and expensive (for the size) slow pocket ocean cruiser.
Deerfoot Yachts * Var
Fast & innovative, aluminum
36, 37, 40, 41, 50 * USA
Nicely proportioned & well built boats. Earlier 36’s are very reasonably priced.
46 * USA
Big and roomy, long overhangs, short waterline.
35, 38, 40 * Var
Peter Ibold design, some owner completed. Built by various yards in ENG,
USA & Canada
37 by Nordic * USA
Perry design. Comfortable, well proven, good value.
F & C
44 * ARG Modem
Frers designed cruising ketch
Pilot House 50, 56, 60, 63 www.farr-pilothouseyachts.com SWE
Sexy, powerful, fast and glamorous.
Excellent quality.First boats were built by Najad
Some built in Canada
, some by Tollycraft. WA. Excellent boat.
30 46 ENG
Sturdy and slow motorsailers. Great for high latitude cruising.
Solidly built Mini ocean cruiser, but slow, slow, slow.
26 * USA
Beautiful design from Morris, an excellent yard.
41, 46, 50 * CAN
39 * USA
Good value. Many owner-completed, so quality varies. FAST, full-keel design capable of 200 mpd!
Gorgeous, fast, semi custom, high quality aluminum
33 * FRA
Very sturdy, short on tankage, Waquiez built.
35, 37,41 * CAN
Attractive Brewer steel
boats. Short production run.
31, 36, 44 CAN
Good design & construction. Totally committed quality company.
, 31,312,33,35,352,36,38,382,39,41,42,42F,43,45,46,4 9,53,62www.hallberg-rassy.com SWE
Well built, comfortable, with good tankage & storage
. Newer Frers designs have better
sailing performance than earlier Enderlien boats. Excellent resale value. Excellent
systems integration and detail.
30 * ENG
Similar to Nicholson 31. Watch for blisters
Attractive, highest quality, and expensive. Hold theirvalue well. Modest tankage & storage.
38 * FRA
Waquiez built, Hood
design. Strong, fast, & attractive. Short on tankage.
rattles downwind. Solid choice.
46,49, 54, 54 Raised Saloon TAI
Frers & S & S designs. Good sailing qualities, tankage & storage. High
quality on later Jachney-era models.
32, 35, 350, 37,38, 40, 420, 44, 45 www.ipy.com USA
Roomy & comfortable with good tankage
& storage but some odd features. Continually improving. Good value, exc. company.
/32, J/42; J/44, J/46, J/160 www.jboats.com USA
Fast, light. Excellent sailing performance. Minimal
tankage and storage. Fast downwind, pound heavily upwind. Ck keels!
35 from Miller Marine * USA
Some owner completed. Several have cruised extensively.
50, 55, 60, 67, 73 HOL
Heavy, expensive, extremely well built steel and aluminum yachts. Not going
to win any races, though!
36 * USA
Gorgeous Paine design, Morris built cruiser.
34, 38 * USA
Lovely steel Brewer & Yohe designs. Very limited production.
42, 45, 60, 65 www.kanteryachts.com CAN
Steel & aluminum boats, semi custom. Highest Quality.
Chuck Paine & Ted Brewer designs.
27, 28, 290, 30, 315, 32, 380 DEN
Some have inside steering
. Well built and impressive.
28 * USA
Gorgeous design, Morris quality.
30 * USA
Very well built, attractive Morris.
42-90 TAI & USA
designed, heavy displacement
. Semi custom. Expensive and solid as
33, DOVE * USA
Older, well built by Allied
36, 38, 39, 45 www.maloyachts.se SWE
Quality offshore boats with good sailing performance.
Attractive, reasonably priced. Strong company, good service
31 * USA
At least one circumnavigation
. Pacific Seacraft built.
33, 43, 44, 53, 54, 63 * TAI
Some of the very best Taiwan
30 * USA
Inexpensive, obscure. One has circumnavigated
38, 42 , 47, 54, 64 www.moody.co.uk * ENG
Good designs but some quality-control issues.
382, 383 * USA
Excellent Ted Brewer design for around $60K.
26, 28, 30, 32, 34,36, 42, 44, 45, 454, 46, 48.6, 52 www.morrisyachts.com USA
Chuck Paine design.
Superb quality, highest quality US yard building cruising boats. Expensive. Semi-custom.
57, 60 * ENG
Dubois design, Bowman built, beautiful.
330, 361, 370, 390, 420, 490, 520 www.najad.com SWE
Quality, attractive boats. Excellent sailing
performance. Good tankage, storage and high level of craftsmanship.
Nauti Cat Motorsailers
35,40,43, 53, www.nauticat.com FIN
Later S & S designed models are much better
performers than earlier tubby models.
31, 35, 42 * CAN
Well built & roomy. Superb value.
34,40,44,45 * USA
Attractive boats, some solvable problems with mast
step deflection on the 40 & 45.
400,447 * TAI
Strong, fast, and attractive. Have held their value well.
43,50, 58 firstname.lastname@example.org SPA
S&S designs, quality construction, good company.
60, 71 * ENG
Powerful boats, many have had blister problems
42 * USA
Only a few built by Hank Hinkley. Classy.
27 * USA
Offshore capable. Pacific Seacraft built.
42, 45, 485,49,53, 55, 56 61, 62, 63, 66, 70, 82, 100 www.oystermarine.com ENG NZL
. Attractive, expensive and first class! Weak resale value and larger
models make this an excellent, though expensive choice.
34, 37, 40, 44 * USA
Well built boats, good resale. Graceful overhangs.
35, 365, 422, 424, 520 * USA
Fairly well built, not flashy but reasonably priced.
41, 415, 435, 44, 456, 470, 50 www.wagnerstevens
Modem Perry cruising design. Good
35 * FRA
Strong, fast & attractive. Built by Waquiez. Best value for a boat under $85,000.
II * USA
Ancient Pearson fiberglass
design, classic but very old, so will need tons of upgrading.
Is it worth it?
Regina of Vindo
, 38, 43, 49 www.reginayachts.se SWE
Attractive, well built, quality deck saloon
. In a class of
their own for quality and design.
36 41 * ENG
Strong, good-looking and sailing boats.
36, 42 ENG
Totally impressive, quality boat and company.
34, 362,38, 402, 42, 402, 425, 452, www.sabreyachts.com USA
Built in Maine
, great quality, but limited
tankage and storage.
34 * ENG
Unsinkable, fast, great performance. Good choice.
35, 43, 48 www.sagayachts.com * CAN
Modern Perry design. Fast innovate and narrow. The 43 is a
very tried and proven design.
Strong, fast and fun!
33 * CAN
Attractive, Bill Garden designed pilothouse cutter
35 * SWE
Limited production but good design.
41, 43 CAN
Modem pilothouse with good performance.
II 32’ * USA
Excellent boats. Good value. First. Built by Allied
44, 51 USA
S & S design. Excellent boats. Semi Custom.
32, 36, 39, 43,43 II, 47, 53. www.shannonyachts.com USA
Good reliable boats. Hold their value well.
51 * TAI
Similar in appearance to Swans. Deck problems.
28, 31, 35, 39 * USA
Good boats. Attractive designs. Fairly well built.
35, 42, 44, 54 * CAN
Older, solid boats, built in Vancouver, B.C.
Total quality S&S design, well built, great detail work.
56, 64 * USA
Excellent & expensive. Innovative design & incredible performance. Good systems layout.
Built by TPI.
Newest designs aren’t well suited for ocean cruising.
39, 45 RSA
Strong, traditional and attractive.
Yachts www.swedenyachts.se SWE
Expensive & well built. Racer cruiser
designs, short on tankage
3500, 37, 3700, 41, 4100, 4600, www.tartanyachts.com * USA
Well proven several 37’s have
circumnavigated. Some designs have centerboards.
43, 49, 56, 58, 60, 72 www.yachtworld.com/taswell TAI
Quality, attractive, good sailing performance.
Excellent tankage, storage and design.
31, 36, 40 * TAI
Perry designs. From the best yard in Taiwan
40+ * USA
Semi custom steel or aluminum Van de Stadt designs.
Roomy and well built. Newer designs are aluminum and exp.
29 by Pearson * USA
Good value, sturdy. Earliest F/g production boat.
32, 37, 39, 40, 42, 47, 50 www.sailnet.com/valiant USA
Major blister problems on Valiant 40 hull
116 250. No problems with any of the excellent Texas
built boats. Proven designs, strong
27 * CAN
Also built in Taiwan & England
Vangard 32 * USA
Good value. Phil Rhodes design, built by Pearson
27, by Albin Marine * SWE
At least six have circumnavigated. Inexpensive, fast.
30, 34 ENG
Chuck Paine design, Morris built.
29, 34, 38, 39 SWE
Attractive, well built, but high maintenance
30, 34 * USA
26 36 ENG
Not flashy, but fairly well built boats.
28, 32, 39, 42, 43 * USA
Sturdy boats. 39’s are rare & attractive. Perry design.
42, 44 CAN
Brewer designs that sell for $85 120k. Good value. Roomy and fairly well built.
Expensive custom boats.
26, 30 * USA
S & S designed. Inexpensive and capable. Great value.
42, 55 www.chriswhitedesigns.com RSA
Chris White design, quality construction.
401, 431, 471, 521 FRA
Good design, but customer service
lacks on delivery
Modern, solid, and fast.
38, 43, 44,46, 56, 60, 75 www.fountaine-pajot.com FRA
Attractive designs, good quality.
38, 41, 47, 57, 67 FRA
Benetau built, good charter
boat, O.K cruising boat.
38,42,47, 62 RSA
Good design, Possibly best built production cat.
42 www.mantausa.com USA
Well designed and built. Great cruising boat.
Fast and strong.
32, 36, 42 CAN
Long successful production run.
38, 45 * ENG
Reasonably priced, well proven, long production run.
Excellent, super fast and high quality, semi-custom.
380, 440, 500, 580 RSA
Lightweight, good value
Out of business
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