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16-10-2014, 15:32
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
I brought our boat around from Daytona to Panama city this spring in 10 days. I averaged 50 miles a day in the ICW no problem, but traffic may be worse this time of year?
Worst part for me was coming out of Marathon, miles and miles of 6' water, I aged 10 yrs
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16-10-2014, 15:34
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
Come out of Biscayne bay into Hawk channel where the houses on stilts are, if you go too far south, it gets real shallow and I'm told with local knowledge no problem, I had no local knowledge, we ran aground and were stuck for a few hours, then had to backtrack, lost a half a day easy.
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16-10-2014, 15:44
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#18
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by JTSmith
... And where would be a good marina to slip in that evening? ...
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Marinas here close in the late afternoon (typically no later than five) and may be closed on certain days. (My marina is closed on the weekends.) Best to call ahead.
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17-10-2014, 05:16
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Punta Gorda, FL, USA
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by RTB
I doubt the Okeechobee is and option. Isn't there at least one fixed bridge at 49'?
Ralph
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Consider the option of paying the small fee for the local crew to mount water ballast on your rail and heel the boat over making it possible to creep a +49' mast under the low bridge on the Okeechobee route. There are discussion threads in this forum to get details.
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17-10-2014, 07:27
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#20
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Bradenton, FL
Boat: Hunter Legend 40
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by RKsailsolo
Consider the option of paying the small fee for the local crew to mount water ballast on your rail and heel the boat over making it possible to creep a +49' mast under the low bridge on the Okeechobee route. There are discussion threads in this forum to get details.
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Where?
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17-10-2014, 07:58
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Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
If your air draft is 58'6" (as the Hunter specs say it is), forget the Okeechobee. Okeechobee Waterway Bridges, Clearances, Schedules and Restrictions
Are these the correct specs for your boat?
Hunter I 53' 9 in J 17' P 48' E 13' 9 in PY LI EY JI loa 39' 7 in hull_speed 7.8 dis_len_ratio T sail_area 787 sq ft capsize 2.06 years_prod 1984-1991 lwl 32' 6 in beam 13' 5 in draft 5' / 6' 6 in displacement "17,900 lbs / 17,400" ballast 7900lbs / 6000 lbs mast_height 58' 6 in water_tanks 105 gal fuel_tanks 38 gal aux_hp 44 hp (4JHE) keel_material Iron
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17-10-2014, 08:32
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
Ralph, that's correct, I believe, except for draft, which is 4'9". Okeechobee is intriguing, but was never really in the plan because of mast height. And, honestly, I'm not all that excited about having some swamp cracker hanging a bunch of water barrels off my mast and wedging me under a bridge.
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17-10-2014, 08:54
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by JTSmith
Where?
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The Okeechobee waterway from Stuart to Ft. Myers. The bridge at Port Mayaca is limited to 49 feet.
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17-10-2014, 09:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Bradenton, FL
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson
The Okeechobee waterway from Stuart to Ft. Myers. The bridge at Port Mayaca is limited to 49 feet.
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Sorry, Stu, should have been more clear. I was asking where the thread was. No worries, not goin' that way anyhow.
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17-10-2014, 10:54
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
there is a popular you tube videos named boat balls and boat balls 2.
look at them for alternatives to getting under a too low bridge for your rig. there is a guy near white city , near port st jpe, who hires out his blue barrels with water fro helping masts of great height go under bridges too low for them.
google boat balls and see what ye find...:
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17-10-2014, 14:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Bradenton, FL
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by zeehag
there is a popular you tube videos named boat balls and boat balls 2.
look at them for alternatives to getting under a too low bridge for your rig. there is a guy near white city , near port st jpe, who hires out his blue barrels with water fro helping masts of great height go under bridges too low for them.
google boat balls and see what ye find...:
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Thanks, Zeehag. Yeah, I watched this. Pretty impressive. Still, it seems like an abnormally weird load on the rig. Freaks me out. Anyway, I didn't buy the boat to slog it through a glorified swamp in central Florida. I'm sailing her. No Okeechobee for me.
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17-10-2014, 18:49
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Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
Hey, good luck with weather. Cold fronts will slow you down and make life miserable. Don't get in a rush.
Ralph
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17-10-2014, 20:39
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Re: How far can I get and where should I slip?
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Originally Posted by JTSmith
Seeking local knowledge. As some of you know, I just bought a Hunter 40. I'll be moving her from Dania Beach (Lauderdale) to Bradenton (Tampa) beginning November 10th. Got about 10 days to do this so no big rush.
The question is how far should I expect to get on day one out of Dania Beach? Leaving dock at 8 AM. And where would be a good marina to slip in that evening? (Staying at marinas all the way - dingy is in Bradenton) Assume 6.5 kts. And 4'9" draft.
Not very familiar with the area and a tad intimidated by all the traffic in Miami.
Thanks, as usual, for all the input.
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Have you considered going thru Lk Okeechobee?
Rocky Pt to Beautiful Is. is 130mi.
Total route distance would be about 300-350mi.
You would need to check current conditions against your draft (6.5'/5' shoal draft) and mast height (57-58').
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US Army Corp. of Engineers: Lake Okeechobee Waterway
Apparently I didn't read far enough to see that this idea has been brought up and shot down. Pulling the mast might work for this route. Trading money for time.
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