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Old 29-12-2015, 06:25   #1
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Help me chose my next boat :)

I am looking for my next boat, but my list of requirements takes me to a very unknown-to-me segment of the market. I am hoping that CF's knowledge can help me narrow down my search to specific models.

Basically, I am looking for a cruising sailboat 22' to 28'. I have a long list of requirements and wishes, but here is what I absolutely need:

1- Used and largely available in the US market for under $15000 (No obscure finnish sailboat produced to 30 hulls 20 years ago please)
2- folding mast, or at least, very easy to put up and remove without exterior help. I am not familiar with those at all and I don't know the systems available, but I know I want to be able to go under any bridge if I so desire, in less than 20 min.
3- daggerboard or centerboard with less than 2' draft when up.
4- maximum liveable space and interior headroom clearance for the size.

If anybody is curious, the purpose is for me and my wife to sail around the US (at least Canada to Texas, then maybe either finish the great loop or go down along Mexico's coast). We want the tiniest boat we can tolerate (we've had a 30' and a 32' and we know we need smaller), and we basically want a cheap little piece of fiberglass allowing us to go in shallow waters or up rivers without having to worry about manoeuvers, draft or clearance, or anything if it matters (the cheaper the boat, the less worried we will be about ruining it, it being stolen while we are exploring for days/weeks inland, etc.). Of course, I know it is all about compromises, so I am ready for a boat that will sail as well as a drifting piece of wood and I am not expecting to be safe in a storm (we would stay close to shore, and sail in fair weather only).

This is totally new to me as I used to be more the water sailing">blue water sailing kind, but I now want to see the world that my former 6' draft prevented me to ever discover until now. No more anchoring 200 feet away from shore.

Please list any model that comes to your mind, thank you for your help, and happy holidays to all !
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Re: Help me chose my next boat :)

Hiya decca,

Big list of requirements, but clearly understood !
I think you'll find a fit...

I've got a 22 Chrysler sunpiper swing keel, sails great, despise the bilge, and spartan... 30 min to rig on land, would be leary of doing it splashed...

Also a 19 West Wight Potter... It would be perfect for you if it were... Well... much bigger... Spectacular layout and amenities for 19ft... Vee+2 qtr berth, sink, stove, porta... 10 min to rig...

Next up, a very long list copied from another website...
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"NAME" "DESIGNER" "LOA" "LWL" "BEAM" "DRAFT" "TYPE" "RIG" "DISP" "BALL" "SA" SA/DISP DISP/LWL COMFORT Cap Scr L/B ROLL ACEL. PERIOD P/B V HULL V Max Vm/Vh PHRF

Noelex 22 Trethewey/Honey 21.4 17.2 7.1 9"/ 4 Mono-DrK Sloop-Fr 1,597 427 190
22.3 140 9.8 2.35
3.01 0.286 1.2 2.64
5.56 7.08 1.27

Lindenberg 22 Kelley, Bruce 21.5 17.3 8.0 .8/4.7 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 1,800 800 214
23.2 157 9.4 2.54
2.69 0.405 1.1 2.30
5.57 7.16 1.29
207 Santana 23 Turner, Shad 23.3 20.6 8.9 1.1 / 5.5 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,900 1,130 283
22.3 148 11.4 2.41
2.62 0.342 1.4 2.58
6.08 7.62 1.25
184 Jeanneau Tonic 24 Harle, Phillippe 23.6 20.3 8.2 2.3/4.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 2,932 1,058 243
19.0 156 12.9 2.22
2.88 0.230 1.6 3.08
6.04 7.18 1.19
240 Hunter 23.5 Hunter Design Group 23.7 21.4 8.3 1.5/5.5 MONO-WB Sloop-Fr 3,300 1,300 236
17.1 150 13.8 2.16
2.86 0.207 1.7 3.26
6.20 7.08 1.14
246 Yankee Seahorse 24 S&S/Rob't Finch 23.8 20.0 7.9 1.7/4.7 MONO-K/CB Sloop 2,800 850 227
18.3 156 13.1 2.17
3.01 0.205 1.6 3.23
5.99 7.04 1.17

Seidelmann 24 Seidelmann 23.8 20.5 8.0 1.9/4.4 MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 3,000 1,100 277
21.3 155 13.5 2.15
2.98 0.198 1.6 3.30
6.07 7.48 1.23
222 S2 7.3
23.8 18.5 8.0 4.0 MONO SLOOP 3,250 1,300 251
18.4 229 15.7 2.09
2.98 0.155 1.9 3.72
5.76 6.74 1.17
234 F-240s
23.9 21.5 8.2 .8/6 MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 1,819 860 323
34.8 82 7.7 2.60
2.92 0.556 1.0 1.98
6.21 9.14 1.47

Rodgers 24 Rodgers, O.H. 24.0 20.0 8.0 1.3/5.68 MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 2,200 750 259
24.6 123 10.0 2.38
3.00 0.331 1.3 2.55
5.99 7.81 1.30
186 Bull 7000 Young, Greg 24.0 22.5 8.0 1.4/? MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,200 715 299
28.3 86 9.3 2.38
3.00 0.373 1.2 2.40
6.36 8.69 1.37
168 Captiva 240 Rodgers, O.H. 24.0 20.0 8.2 2.0 / 4.67 MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 2,400 1,000 280
25.1 134 10.7 2.36
2.94 0.313 1.3 2.64
5.99 7.85 1.31
222 Windrose 24 Laguna Yachts 24.0 22.4 7.8 1.5/5.1 MONO-SwK SLOOP 2,400 700 228
20.4 95 10.4 2.26
3.07 0.289 1.3 2.71
6.34 7.76 1.22

Spindrift 22 HINCKLEY 24.0 20.3 8.0 2'5"/5'7" MONO Sloop-Fr 3,000 1,450 248
19.1 161 13.6 2.15
3.00 0.195 1.7 3.32
6.03 7.17 1.19
246 Beneteau First 24 Group Finot 24.0 20.7 8.2 2.6/5.3 MONO-SwK Sloop 3,307 1,102 437
31.6 167 14.4 2.12
2.94 0.185 1.7 3.43
6.09 8.54 1.40
189 Bahama Sandpiper Paine 24.0 22.5 8.0 1'6"/6' MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 4,140 1,500 305
19.0 162 17.5 1.93
3.00 0.124 2.1 4.17
6.36 7.47 1.18

Seidelmann 245 Seidelmann 24.2 20.5 8.0 1.9/4.4 MONO-K/CB Sloop 3,000 1,300 275
21.2 155
2.15





6.07 7.47 1.23

Etap 23 (7.36m) DeRidder 24.2 19.0 8.2 2.3/4.8 MONO-DrK Sloop 3,320 1,035 289
20.8 216 15.2 2.12
2.96 0.169 1.8 3.59
5.84 7.12 1.22

Farr 740 Sport Farr 24.2 20.5 8.2 11"/5'7" MONO-DrK SLOOP 3,120 850 255
19.2 162 13.6 2.16
2.96 0.203 1.6 3.27
6.07 7.21 1.19
162 FCS 24 FOX 24.3 21.7 8.0 1.5/5.5 WISHBONE KETCH 4,500 1,900 250
14.7 197 19.4 1.87
3.04 0.103 2.3 4.56
6.24 6.72 1.08

Seaward 24 Hake 24.3 22.2 8.4 2/5.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 5,100 1,100 243
13.1 209 20.2 1.89
2.89 0.107 2.3 4.55
6.31 6.52 1.03

Ultimate 24 Antrim, Jim 24.4 21.2 8.5 2.9 /5.5 Mono-LK Sloop-Fr 2,040 750 390
38.9 96 8.2 2.59
2.87 0.528 1.1 2.05
6.17 9.39 1.52

Terrapin 24
24.5 20.1 8.0 .8/5 MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 2,150 ? 216
20.8 118 9.7 2.40
3.06 0.347 1.2 2.49
6.01 7.41 1.23

Freedom 24 Tripp 24.5 21.5 8.3 1.83'/4' MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 3,250 1,350 378
27.6 146 13.5 2.15
2.97 0.208 1.6 3.25
6.21 8.33 1.34
168 Morgan 24 Morgan, Charles 24.5 21.0 8.0 2.8/6 MONO-K/CB Sloop 5,000 1,900 310
17.0 241 22.0 1.81
3.06 0.083 2.5 5.09
6.14 6.92 1.13
231 VENTURE 224 MACGREGOR 24.6 21.3 7.9 4.5 SWING KEEL SLOOP 2,200 600 231
21.9 102 9.7 2.35
3.11 0.333 1.3 2.53
6.18 7.76 1.25
243 Helms 25 Windley, Stuart 24.9 21.5 8.0 1.7/6 MONO-SwK Sloop 3,950 1,650 270
17.3 177 17.1 1.95
3.13 0.125 2.1 4.14
6.21 7.09 1.14
243 ST. VALERY BOLGER 24.9 20.9 6.6 1.0 SHOALE DRAFT, WATER BALLAST GAFF SCHOONER 4,700 1,000 349
20.0 230 26.6 1.52
3.77 0.037 3.2 7.10
6.13 7.29 1.19

MacGregor 25 MacGregor 24.9 22.8 7.9 1.5'/5' MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 2,100 625 314
30.7 79 8.8 2.39
3.15 0.392 1.2 2.34
6.40 9.00 1.41
234 Venture 25 MacGregor 24.9 22.8 7.9 1.5'/5' MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 2,300 600 231
21.3 86 9.6 2.32
3.15 0.334 1.3 2.53
6.40 7.94 1.24
234 Sportina 760 Skrzat, Andrzej 24.9 24.3 8.2 1.3 / 4.8 MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 5,070 1,718 291
15.8 159 19.4 1.85





6.60 7.26 1.10

MX-25 MURNIKOV 25.0 24.5 9.0 6.0 LIFTING FIN + BULB SLOOP 1,800 900 450
48.8 55 6.0 2.86
2.78 0.984 0.8 1.53
6.63 10.93 1.65

B-25 Bailey 25.0 21.3 8.3 1'/5' MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,000 800 273
27.6 92 8.2 2.55
3.01 0.493 1.1 2.11
6.18 8.40 1.36
132 ~ 144 Elliott 770 Elliott 25.0 23.6 8.2 1'7"/5'8" MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,400 850 320
28.6 82 9.4 2.36
3.06 0.370 1.2 2.43
6.51 8.91 1.37
117 Dehler 25 Van DeStadt 25.0 19.5 8.2 1.5/4.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop 3,031 1,553 278
21.3 182 13.5 2.18
3.06 0.203 1.6 3.27
5.92 7.29 1.23
226 CATALINA 250, H2O Butler, Frank 25.0 21.3 8.5 1.8/5.9 WATER BALLAST SLOOP 3,600 1,200 271
18.5 166 14.3 2.14
2.94 0.197 1.7 3.36
6.18 7.24 1.17
235 Bremer 25 BREMER 25.0 22.5 8.0 2.5/6.2 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 3,800 1,600 308
20.3 149 15.8 1.98
3.13 0.144 1.9 3.87
6.36 7.66 1.20

Coronado 25 SD 25.0 20.0 8.0 2.5/4.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 4,300 1,800 273
16.6 240 19.4 1.90
3.13 0.103 2.3 4.57
5.99 6.72 1.12

CATALINA 25 Butler, Frank 25.0 22.3 8.0 2.1 / 5.1 MONO-SwK Sloop-MH 4,550 1,200 270
15.8 183 19.1 1.87
3.13 0.104 2.3 4.55
6.33 6.97 1.10
222 Morgan 25 Morgan, Charles 25.0 21.5 8.0 2.8/6.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 5,000 1,900 310
17.0 225 21.5 1.81
3.13 0.085 2.5 5.03
6.21 7.00 1.13
234 Irwin 25 1/4T Irwin, Ted 25.2 19.3 9.5 3.5/6.2 MONO-DrK Sloop 4,000 2,000 279
17.8 247 14.6 2.31
2.65 0.246 1.7 3.09
5.89 6.78 1.15

ENSENADA 25 Hankinson 25.2 22.2 7.9 2.2 MONO-CB SLOOP 3,000 1,200 278
21.4 122 12.8 2.12
3.19 0.202 1.6 3.25
6.31 7.80 1.23

Black Skimmer Bolger 25.3 23.7 7.0 .8/4.8 MONO-LB Cat-Yawl 2,800 500 304
24.5 94 13.4 1.92
3.61 0.138 1.8 3.77
6.52 8.44 1.29

BeachComber 25 Scott, Walt 25.3 23.0 8.0 1.25 BU MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 4,350 1,200 280
16.9 160 17.8 1.90
3.16 0.116 2.1 4.30
6.43 7.25 1.13

Irwin 10/4 Irwin, Ted 25.3 22.8 10.3 2.8/6.7 MONO-K/CB SLOOP 7,000 2,000 395
17.3 263 20.5 2.08
2.46 0.157 2.2 3.95
6.40 7.19 1.12
270 SR 25 Henderson 25.4 21.0 8.5 1.3/5.4 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 1,960 ? 275
28.2 94 7.8 2.63
2.99 0.561 1.0 1.99
6.14 8.40 1.37
120 Skimmer 25 Parker 25.4 24.0 8.2 1'4"/3'10" MONO-CB Sloop-Gaff 3,800 1,000 375
24.7 123 14.6 2.02
3.11 0.169 1.8 3.59
6.56 8.44 1.29

Irwin 25 Irwin, Ted 25.4 20.5 8.0 2.7/6.7 MONO-K/CB Sloop 5,400 ? 315
16.4 280 23.8 1.76
3.18 0.071 2.7 5.51
6.07 6.74 1.11

Elliott 780 Elliott, Greg 25.5 22.3 8.2 1.6 / 5.3 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,200 880 432
41.0 88 8.8 2.44
3.11 0.416 1.2 2.29
6.33 9.79 1.55

Tradewinds 26 Luger 25.6
7.9 2.2/5.5 MONO-SwK Sloop-Fr 2,600 750 235
19.9
33.2 2.23
3.23 #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
0.00 0.00


Balboa 26 Hess, Lyle 25.6 20.8 8.0 1.8'/5 MONO-SwK Sloop 3,600 1,200 293
20.0 178 15.8 2.01
3.21 0.143 1.9 3.88
6.12 7.34 1.20
225 CHRYSLER 26 Herreshoff, H 25.6 22.0 8.0 2.1 / 5.7 MONO SLOOP 4,200 1,925 277
17.1 176 17.6 1.92
3.20 0.118 2.1 4.27
6.29 7.13 1.13
237 Parker-Dawson 26 Finch, Bob 25.6 22.2 8.0 1.7/5.3 MONO-SwK Sloop 5,700 1,200 271
13.6 234 23.8 1.73
3.20 0.070 2.8 5.55
6.31 6.58 1.04

Beneteau First Class 8 Finot 25.8 23.3 8.1 2.2/5.7 Mono-SwK Sloop-Fr 3,080 1,133 371
28.1 109 12.2 2.15
3.18 0.227 1.6 3.09
6.46 8.73 1.35
144 ~ 156 HUNTER 260 KEEL HUNTER DESIGN 25.8 23.1 8.9 1.6 SWING KEEL SLOOP 5,000 2,000 290
15.9 181 17.6 2.01
2.90 0.149 2.1 3.92
6.44 7.10 1.10

MacGregor 26X MacGregor 25.8 23.0 7.8 9"/5'6" MONO-WB Sloop-Fr 3,750 1,500 281
18.7 138 15.7 1.95
3.30 0.136 1.9 3.95
6.43 7.53 1.17
252 South Coast 26 Metcalf/Monroe 25.8 23.3 8.0 1.8/3.8 MONO-DrK SLOOP 4,200 1,473 250
15.4 149 16.9 1.92
3.23 0.125 2.1 4.15
6.46 7.08 1.10
267 Etap 26 Van DeStadt 25.8 21.6 9.0 3.1/5.4 MONO-DrK Sloop 5,000 1,545 384
21.1 222 18.1 2.04
2.87 0.146 2.1 3.96
6.22 7.53 1.21

S2 7.9 G & S 25.9 21.7 9.0 1'8"/5'2" MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 4,250 1,750 329
20.1 187 15.3 2.15
2.88 0.194 1.8 3.43
6.24 7.47 1.20
162~174 Left Coast Dart Bailey 26.0 26.0 8.5 2'/6'
Sloop-Fr 2,200 850


56 7.6 2.53
3.06 0.568 1.0 1.98
6.83



Princess Sharpie 26 Byrnes, Graham 26.0 25.0 8.0 1.3' / 4.7' MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 3,700 700 294
19.7 106 14.2 2.00
3.25 0.167 1.8 3.59
6.70 8.00 1.19

Great Harbor 26 Cook, Bill 26.0 20.5 7.8 1.8/5 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 3,625 1,494 303
20.6 188 16.3 1.97
3.32 0.129 2.0 4.06
6.07 7.35 1.21
186 Evelyn 26 Evelyn, Bob 26.0 24.6 9.5 1'/5' MONO-DrK Sloop 4,200 1,620 327
20.2 126 12.9 2.28
2.74 0.287 1.6 2.86
6.64 7.96 1.20
165 Kent Ranger 26 Richards, Ray 26.0 22.0 8.0 2.4/4.9 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 4,750
320
18.2 199 19.8 1.84
3.25 0.095 2.4 4.75
6.29 7.25 1.15

Alerion Herreshoff, NG 26.0 21.8 7.6 2'5"/5'2" MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 6,000 3,000 383
18.6 260 27.1 1.61
3.43 0.049 3.2 6.52
6.25 7.22 1.16
228 Bombay Express 26 Scott, Walter 26.0 24.1 10.5 2.3/5.8 MONO-K/CB Sloop 7,500 2,500 412
17.3 239 20.5 2.07
2.48 0.159 2.2 3.93
6.58 7.36 1.12
234 DiDi 26 Dix, Dudley 26.3 24.8 8.1 1.7/5.6 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,204 959 343
32.5 65 8.3 2.41
3.24 0.433 1.1 2.24
6.67 9.54 1.43
101 KODIAK BREWER 26.3 24.2 8.5 1.6 CB
3,250 1,350 285
20.8 102 11.7 2.22
3.09 0.268 1.5 2.88
6.59 8.05 1.22

Island Packet 27 Johnson, R.K. 26.5 24.3 10.5 3.7 MONO-K/CB Cutter 8,000 3,000 405
16.3 250 21.6 2.03
2.52 0.143 2.4 4.14
6.60 7.23 1.10
234 Marshall Cat 26 Marshall, Breck 26.5 25.0 11.8 2.5/5.4 MONO Cat-Gaff 10,000 1,200 540
18.7 286 22.8 2.11
2.26 0.164 2.4 3.96
6.70 7.64 1.14

Tripp 26 Tripp 26.7 22.0 8.7 6.0 LIFTING BULB KEEL Sloop-Fr 2,900 1,000 347
27.4 122 10.8 2.35
3.08 0.325 1.4 2.63
6.29 8.43 1.34
108 WHELAN 27 WHELAN 26.8 26.0 9.0 6.8 LIFTING FIN + BU SLOOP 2,200 900 432
41.0 56 6.9 2.68
2.98 0.736 0.9 1.77
6.83 10.56 1.55

BC-27 m2
27.0 26.3 8.5 6.5 LIFTING BULB KEEL Sloop-Fr 2,400 1,360 500
44.7 59 8.1 2.45
3.18 0.494 1.1 2.12
6.87 10.91 1.59

Captiva 27 Rodgers & Scott 27.0 22.5 9.8 2.8'/5.3' MONO-K/CB Sloop 6,000 2,500 362
17.6 235 18.7 2.08
2.77 0.158 2.1 3.88
6.36 7.21 1.13

Irwin 27 Irwin, Ted 27.1 20.5 8.7 2.7/7.1 MONO-K/CB Sloop 6,600 2,700 356
16.2 342 25.5 1.79
3.13 0.072 2.9 5.58
6.07 6.68 1.10
225 Jeanneau Espace 800 Harle, Phillippe 27.3 22.8 9.8 3.1/7 MONO-K/CB Sloop 7,000 2,400 553
24.3 263 21.3 1.99
2.77 0.127 2.4 4.33
6.40 8.04 1.26

Controversy 27 Butler, Frank 27.5 22.5 7.9 2.9/? MONO-K/CB Sloop 4,600
316
18.3 180 18.8 1.84
3.47 0.098 2.3 4.66
6.36 7.36 1.16

Sea Pearl 28 Herreshoff 27.8 24.6 8.0 1.6/5.5 MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 4,200 1,200 296
18.2 126 15.9 1.92
3.48 0.132 2.0 4.04
6.65 7.70 1.16

Antrim 27 Antrim 27.8 23.8 9.3 3.3/6 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,600 1,050 489
41.5 87 8.3 2.60
3.01 0.568 1.1 2.02
6.53 10.09 1.54
60 Andrews 28 Andrews, Alan 28.0 25.8 9.9 2.5 / 7 MONO-DrK Sloop-Fr 2,750 1,290 412
33.7 72 7.6 2.74
2.82 0.763 1.0 1.77
6.80 9.79 1.44
94 Stuart Knockabout Herreshoff, LF 28.0 22.8 6.9 2'9"/5'6" MONO-K/CB Sloop-Fr 4,000 2,400 265
16.9 150 19.2 1.69
4.04 0.068 2.5 5.35
6.40 7.24 1.13
189 Shearwater Bolger 28.3 24.8 6.5 .5/3.3 MONO-LB Cat-Yawl 2,550 600 233
20.0 75 12.6 1.84
4.35 0.119 1.8 3.94
6.67 8.09 1.21

Freedom 28 Hoyt, Gary 28.3 25.8 9.3 2.5/5.3 MONO-CB Cat Ketch 7,000
395
17.3 183 20.8 1.89
3.04 0.114 2.4 4.53
6.80 7.64 1.12
189 Nimble 24 Brewer 28.4 24.2 8.3 1.3'/4.2' MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 2,600 ? 252
21.4 82 9.5 2.32
3.44 0.344 1.3 2.52
6.59 8.16 1.24

Irwin 28 Irwin, Ted 28.4 22.5 9.0 3/7.3 MONO-K/CB Sloop 7,900 3,200 394
15.9 310 26.9 1.75
3.16 0.069 3.1 5.79
6.36 6.92 1.09
201~228 Nimble WANDERER Brewer 28.6 27.7 8.5 2.0 MONO-CB SLOOP 6,400 2,048 412
19.2 134 20.4 1.77
3.36 0.094 2.5 4.87
7.05 8.22 1.16

Beneteau First 27.7 Finot 28.8 27.0 10.1 2.0/7.0 Mono-LK Sloop-Fr 5,500 990 474
24.4 125 14.2 2.21
2.85 0.259 1.7 3.06
6.96 8.83 1.27

Beneteau First 28 Group Finot 28.8 24.3 9.8 3.8/6.8 MONO-K/CB SLOOP 5,952 2,205

0.0 186 17.1 2.10
2.93 0.179 2.0 3.65
6.60 0.00 0.00

AS-29 BOLGER 29.0 29.0 8.0 2.0 SHARPIE, BILGE BOARDS GAFF, CAT YAWL 7,800 1,420 363
14.8 143 26.0 1.56
3.63 0.053 3.2 6.38
7.22 7.67 1.06

Sharp-ende 900 (modernized Egret) Monro, R 29.3 27.1 7.8 1 / 4.9 Mono CB Gaff Cat-Ketch 3,960 660 306
19.6 89 14.3 1.91
3.76 0.143 1.9 3.84
6.98 8.30 1.19

WILLIAM D. JOCHEMS BOLGER 29.7 24.2 7.1 1.2 SHOAL DRAFT SHARPIE, WATER BALLAST GAFF SCHOONER 4,900 1,136 392
21.8 154 21.5 1.62
4.18 0.057 2.8 5.91
6.59 8.07 1.22

Sonoma 30 Schumacher 29.9 26.9 8.5 2'/6' LIFTING BULB KEEL Sloop-Fr 3,300 1,400 370
26.8 76 10.6 2.21
3.52 0.290 1.4 2.77
6.95 9.22 1.33
92 C&C Mega 30 G & S ? Barret, Peter ? 29.9 27.0 7.9 5.0 MONO Sloop-Fr 4,500 2,200 427
25.1 102 15.8 1.86
3.78 0.123 2.1 4.18
6.96 8.96 1.29
144 Bristol 29.9 C & C 29.9 24.0 9.3 3.5/7.5 MONO-K/CB SLOOP 8,650 3,600 391
14.9 279 26.5 1.76
3.21 0.073 3.0 5.64
6.56 6.97 1.06
192 Morgan 30 Morgan, Charles 29.9 24.2 9.3 3.5/7 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 10,500 4,500 466
15.6 332 32.4 1.63
3.23 0.051 3.6 6.77
6.59 7.06 1.07
204 ISLAND PACKET 31 JOHNSON 30.6 27.7 11.5 4.0 CB CUTTER 11,000 4,500 648
21.0 231 23.0 2.00
2.66 0.140 2.5 4.26
7.05 8.34 1.18

Irwin 31 Irwin, Ted 31.0 22.3 9.6 3.3/7.8 MONO-K/CB
9,600 3,800 460
16.3 389 29.4 1.74
3.24 0.064 3.3 6.09
6.32 6.90 1.09
225 BRISTOL 31.1 31.1 24.8 10.2 4.3 CB SLOOP 11,200 4,500 474
15.2 328 29.4 1.76
3.05 0.072 3.3 5.82
6.67 7.08 1.06
174 C&C Corvette 31 (1965) C&C 31.3 22.0 9.1 3.3/7 MONO CCA type K/CB Sloop-MH 8,545 4,500 444
17.1 358 28.2 1.72
3.44 0.061 3.3 6.15
6.29 6.98 1.11
183 ~ 207 C&C 32cb C & C 31.6 24.8 10.3 4.0 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 10,050 4,150 466
16.1 294 25.9 1.85
3.07 0.090 2.9 5.19
6.67 7.24 1.08
177 Kirie Feeling 32cb Joubert & Roseo 31.8 28.6 11.3 2.2/6.3 CB Sloop-Fr 9,790 3,410 544
19.1 187 20.3 2.04
2.81 0.164 2.3 3.93
7.17 8.23 1.15

Jeanneau ATTALIA CB Joubert/Nivelt 31.9 25.9 10.5 3.5/6.5 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 7,616 2,688 555
23.0 196 18.5 2.06
3.04 0.167 2.2 3.84
6.82 8.40 1.23
166 Columbia 32 Kernan 32.0 27.0 9.5 2.7'/7' LIFTING BULB KEEL Sloop-Fr 3,600 1,650 460
31.4 82 9.7 2.40
3.37 0.412 1.3 2.39
6.96 9.72 1.40

FEELING 326 D.I. HARLE/MORTAIN 32.0 26.8 11.1 2.2 CB
8,377 2,866 546
21.2 194 18.5 2.11
2.88 0.187 2.2 3.67
6.94 8.30 1.20

Southerly 100 Carter, Dick 32.0 25.3 9.9 1.8/5.8 Mono-CB Sloop-MH 9,500 2,774 478
17.1 261 25.3 1.81
3.23 0.086 2.9 5.27
6.74 7.48 1.11

Irwin 32 Irwin, Ted 32.0 25.0 9.7 3.5/7.8 MONO-K/CB
11,500 5,200 492
15.5 329 31.9 1.66
3.31 0.055 3.6 6.60
6.70 7.15 1.07
186 ISLAND PACKET 29 JOHNSON 32.0 25.6 10.9 3.5 CB CUTTER 11,900 4,800 491
15.1 317 27.7 1.85
2.94 0.089 3.1 5.29
6.78 7.17 1.06
204 Whistler 32 Able/Paine 32.0 25.8 10.5 3.6/7.7 MONO Cutter 11,986 5,000 520
15.9 310 29.2 1.78
3.05 0.075 3.3 5.71
6.81 7.33 1.08

Jeanneau 32 32.0 27.8 10.5 3.2 CB Sloop 13,000


0.0 272 30.2 1.73
3.05 0.070 3.4 5.91
7.06 0.00 0.00

Seaward Eagle Hake 32.2 28.5 10.5 1.5/6.5 MONO-DrK Sloop-MH 9,000 2,500 460
17.1 174 20.5 1.95
3.06 0.137 2.4 4.23
7.15 7.94 1.11

SUNBEAM 32 MIGLITSCH/SCHOECHL 32.2 26.0 10.2 4.1 MED. KEEL + BULB
9,500 0 411
14.7 241 23.9 1.86
3.16 0.100 2.8 4.92
6.83 7.20 1.05

Shoalsailer 32 Schulz, Walter 32.4 30.0 12.8 2.5 MONO-DB Sloop-Fr 9,532 2,200 540
19.3 158 16.2 2.33
2.54 0.304 1.9 2.94
7.34 8.47 1.15

Speedwave 32 Southerly 32.8 30.5 9.5 2.8 / 7.5 MONO-CB Sloop-Fr 5,510 1,850 600
30.9 87 13.6 2.08
3.45 0.222 1.8 3.26
7.40 10.14 1.37

Hobie 33
33.0 30.5 8.0 5.5 FIN + Bulb Spade Sloop-Fr 4,000 1,800 427
27.2 63 12.4 1.95
4.13 0.178 1.7 3.47
7.40 9.81 1.33
90~105 Tripp 33 Tripp 33.0 28.0 10.3 7.0 FIN + BULB Sloop-Fr 5,900 2,600 540
26.6 120 13.8 2.21
3.19 0.262 1.7 3.05
7.09 9.23 1.30
87 Jeanneau Sun Rise 33 Fauroux, Jacques 33.0 28.1 11.5 3.7/ 7.3 MONO-DrK Sloop-MH 11,242 4,158 687
22.0 226 22.8 1.98
2.88 0.135 2.6 4.34
7.11 8.52 1.20
132 Freedom 33 Hoyt, Gary 33.0 30.0 11.0 3.5/6 MONO-CB Cat-Ketch 12,000 3,800 516
15.8 198 24.6 1.86
3.00 0.107 2.8 4.83
7.34 7.87 1.07
162 Columbia 33 Monroe, Wirth 33.1 24.0 9.8 3.6/7 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 11,000 4,200 476
15.5 355 30.3 1.71
3.37 0.061 3.5 6.27
6.56 7.01 1.07
216 Van De Stadt 34 Van De Stadt 33.7 26.3 10.8 3.2/5.9 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 9,900 4,400 711
24.8 244 22.5 1.95
3.11 0.123 2.6 4.50
6.87 8.60 1.25

Sabre 38 CB Sabre 33.7 26.3 10.5 3.9/7.8 MONO-K/CB SLOOP 11,700 4,900 507
15.8 289 27.7 1.79
3.21 0.080 3.2 5.54
6.87 7.37 1.07
156 Ticon 34 Kirby, Bruce 33.7 31.3 12.6 3.8 Keel/CB Cat Ketch 13,800 6,000 762
21.3 202 22.9 2.03
2.68 0.157 2.6 4.09
7.49 8.84 1.18
156 Sabre 34 CB Hewson, Roger 34.2 28.3 11.0 4/7.33 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 11,700 4,900 542
16.9 232 24.6 1.88
3.10 0.106 2.8 4.85
7.12 7.82 1.10
162 Mason 34 C/B Mason, Al 34.2 25.4 10.5 3'8"/6'8" MONO-CB Sloop-Fr 14,600 4,370 572
15.4 397 35.1 1.66
3.25 0.053 3.9 6.83
6.76 7.14 1.06

FEELING 346 DI VATON 34.2 28.5 11.3 2.3 CB
10,802 3,704 677
22.2 208 21.9 1.98
3.03 0.138 2.5 4.28
7.15 8.63 1.21

SUNBEAM 34 MIGLITSCH/SCHOECHL 34.2 28.4 11.3 4.4 MED. KEEL + BULB
13,000 0 470
13.6 253 26.4 1.86
3.03 0.099 3.0 5.04
7.14 7.28 1.02

Tanzer 10.5 Carter, Dick 34.4 27.5 11.5 2.1/6.5 MONO-CB Sloop-MH 13,000 5,700 557
16.2 279 26.3 1.89
2.99 0.104 3.0 4.95
7.03 7.58 1.08
162 Nightwind 35 Kirby, Bruce 34.7 28.1 11.5 2.8/7.3 MONO-CB SLOOP 11,500 5,200 642
20.2 231 22.9 1.97
3.01 0.131 2.6 4.40
7.10 8.28 1.17
126 CLEARWATER 36 Walters 35.2 27.7 11.3 3.7 CB SLOOP 11,500 4,000 524
16.5 242 23.5 1.94
3.12 0.120 2.7 4.59
7.05 7.69 1.09
111 SOUTHERLY 110 HUMPHREYS 36.0 30.3 11.9 2.4 - 7.1 SWING KEEL SLOOP 13,750 6,765 570
15.9 221 24.5 1.92
3.03 0.120 2.8 4.62
7.38 7.91 1.07

Jeanneau Sunshine 36 Castro, Tony 36.4 30.7 12.6 4.1/6.3 MONO-K/CB Sloop-MH 10,800



167 17.7 2.20
2.90 0.236 2.1 3.33
7.42 0.00 0.00
108~117 Morgan 364 Nelson/Marek 36.4 29.4 11.8 4.6/6.9 MONO-K/CB Sloop 11,000
574
18.6 193 20.1 2.06
3.08 0.168 2.4 3.91
7.27 8.26 1.14
117 Kirie Feeling 36 Joubert & Roseo 36.5 35.5 11.9 2.5/7.1 CB Sloop-Frac 14,300 5,236 722
19.7 143 22.8 1.90
3.07 0.132 2.7 4.42
7.98 9.17 1.15
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wow that's quite a list. I'm going through it right now, thanks More ideas welcome!
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Happy, how did you generate that list? Pretty cool. Price is probably not a parameter but it's great information.
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No headroom apart from under the pop-top, but a used F27 folding tri will both do the job and make you fall even further in love with sailing, which you never before realised could be quite so easy and quite as much fun...
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Venture of Newport. Have one I'll sell.
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I met a couple once where he sailed the boat and she drove the car, they met at the next location. Always thought this was a good idea, gives you a lot of options. Good luck.
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Standing headroom for a small trailerable boat is the hard part. You could go with one of the pilot house Nimbles but tough to find with that budget. The Nimbles also have a good tabernacle system. Seawards are nice but also pricy. What's the max weight for your tow vehicle?
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2nd on the Nimbles and Seawards
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Pacific Seacraft Flicka 20 in the outboard model.
Look on Boats for Sale - New and Used Boats and Yachts - YachtWorld.com we have two listed. Both under 20K asking.
You can't beat the quality for the price and they have stand up headroom. You will not be able to easily lower any mast on any substantial ocean going boat but you can jury rig a boom pole to do it on this boat.
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Our Seaward 25 almost fits the bill and I highly recommend them. Having said that, the boat that jumps out at me with this criteria is the MacGregor. Cheap, roomy, easy to raise and lower the mast, variable draft, tons of them out there, etc. The older S and D models are fine sailing boats. The newer X and M models, with their bigger outboards, give you some other exploring options.

I know many people poo poo the Macs but, having spent a lot of time around all kind of trailerable sailboats, I think they really get a bad rap.
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Pacific Seacraft Flicka 20 in the outboard model.
Look on Boats for Sale - New and Used Boats and Yachts - YachtWorld.com we have two listed. Both under 20K asking.
You can't beat the quality for the price and they have stand up headroom. You will not be able to easily lower any mast on any substantial ocean going boat but you can jury rig a boom pole to do it on this boat.
Just my two cents.
Disqualified by draft. Great boat though.
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Our Seaward 25 almost fits the bill and I highly recommend them. Having said that, the boat that jumps out at me with this criteria is the MacGregor. Cheap, roomy, easy to raise and lower the mast, variable draft, tons of them out there, etc. The older S and D models are fine sailing boats. The newer X and M models, with their bigger outboards, give you some other exploring options.

I know many people poo poo the Macs but, having spent a lot of time around all kind of trailerable sailboats, I think they really get a bad rap.
It looks like the newer power-sailor models have really shot up in price lately.
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Our Seaward 25 almost fits the bill and I highly recommend them. Having said that, the boat that jumps out at me with this criteria is the MacGregor. Cheap, roomy, easy to raise and lower the mast, variable draft, tons of them out there, etc. The older S and D models are fine sailing boats. The newer X and M models, with their bigger outboards, give you some other exploring options.

I know many people poo poo the Macs but, having spent a lot of time around all kind of trailerable sailboats, I think they really get a bad rap.
We've also been thinking about getting a smaller trailerable sailboat & the Seaward is one of my favorites. Why do you say it almost fits the bill & what do you think of the boat?
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