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Old 02-02-2015, 09:00   #31
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Re: HELP!

Is the mast deck mounted or keel mounted? If deck mounted, with a couple threads on the backstay, and a 6:1 purchase forward tension on the mast I would stay out of the plane of destruction when applying force so you don't get killed when the mast comes crashing down.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:06   #32
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Also if you have a topping lift to the boom, make sure yur main sheet has some slack in it, that will add tension to the aft end of the mast.
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Several posters here hit the nail with this isue, RTB for example, first of all you need to close that bottom togle before slide the pin, is wide open, get a plier a close a bit, second if you have sweep back spreaders , loose the cap shrouds since tight wires make prebend and tight the forestay, if you dont have sweep back spreaders loose the backstay enough and fit a halyard to a bow deck strong point, crank the winch until you start to see the bottom drum from the furler coming nice to the chainplate ,, hehe thats why we fit turnbuckles in the lower drum when we can everytime we install a new furler....
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Also if you have a topping lift to the boom, make sure yur main sheet has some slack in it, that will add tension to the aft end of the mast.
It's possible that this has been the problem all along...

It don't think it's THAT tight though. Something definitely doesn't seem right...
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If everything aft. is lose then there should be plenty of slack in front.
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There may be a turnbuckle inside the drum on the furler. On my flex furler w the sail off you can slide the drum and extrusion up the forestay to gain access to the turnbuckle underneath.

Better photos would help.


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There may be a turnbuckle inside the drum on the furler. On my flex furler w the sail off you can slide the drum and extrusion up the forestay to gain access to the turnbuckle underneath.

Better photos would help.


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There does appear to be some type of turnbuckle inside the drum. I'm pretty sure you would need to unbolt the drum to access it.

If what I try tonight doesn't work, I will take a lot of better pics.
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Re: HELP!

Vinny,

Get the sail off the furler. It is helping fight your efforts to straighten out the furler enough to re-attach it. You may want a hand with that, it is far easier to deal with the sail with two people, and you'll be able to fold it up tidier, like how a new one comes from the loft.

You're likely to destroy that snap shackle if you but a 6:1 tackle on it; and if it breaks suddenly (likely, IMO) it could really hurt you with the tackle being what's trying to kill you.

neilpride suggested a strong point, and given that you already tore out one deck cleat, I guess your roller will be the next best object. With the backstay loose, the headsail off, the forestay turnbuckle loose as well, main sheet eased, and a rolling hitch on the furler above the bail, you should be able to haul down on the furler sections enough to get your pin in. It will take two, one for the pin, and one to downhaul.

Another method might be, still headsail off, everything loose, if your boat already has a spinnaker pole downhaul, to use that downhaul tied onto the furler to pull down on it. It depends on the geometry and equipment your boat has. That downhaul (if you have it) can be lead to a cockpit winch.

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Yes, loosen the turnbuckle for it.
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Hey Vinny, how about an update?

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I know, were all on the edge of the rail..
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Hahaha...well the weather has been bad here, cold and raining...so I've just had it sitting there with my 6:1 main sheet securing the halyard to the snap shackle for the storm jib.(not tight, just tense enough to work as a safety line in case it comes loose)

I had a guy who does rigging on the side that was going to fix it, but he wasn't able to meet me at the last minute due to an emergency. Now I work all weekend, but I am trying to make it out there tomorrow to try and fix it. I have a friend who is going to help.

I'm confident that if I loosen the turnbuckle on the back stay all the way, I can get it...it feels slack, but there is still a good 20-40 threads still inside the turnbuckle.
If that doesn't work I will try loosening the turnbuckles on the shrouds as well.
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If that doesn't work I will try loosening the turnbuckles on the shrouds as well.
If your rig has aft Lower shrouds, slacken them off as well as the backstay to allow more forward movement
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Got it! thanks everyone for your advice, it was spot on. All I needed to do was ease the back stay off until there were only a few threads left and it went in relatively easy.

I guess I was just being too nervous about loosening it enough.
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What RTB said..
Vinny... Loosen up your backstay... for a rough return to before...count the turns...
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Hahaha...well the weather has been bad here, cold and raining...
July is right around the corner man.... No complaining then....

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Got it! thanks everyone for your advice, it was spot on. All I needed to do was ease the back stay off until there were only a few threads left and it went in relatively easy.

I guess I was just being too nervous about loosening it enough.
Nervous is better than disastrous alternatives.... You have 2 halyards btw...

PS: Anne had the great tip of MENTIONING taking the dang sail off... Overlooked as already done by us idjidts...
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