Osirissail's loud & broad opinion is indeed unfortunate. His knowledge is reflected by the fact he bought a Gulfstar motor sailer. Yes, big, roomy and actually a powerboat surplus hull with a keel slapped on. Power boats never seemed to be Lazzarra's passion and suffered for it.
Here are some facts;
The motorsailers are for motor boaters who want to pretend they are sailors or save a little fuel
from time to time. A sailor will find they sail like a pig. They are an inexpensive, spacious boat as O man said, but they did suffer from being originally formatted from the parts
The chopper gun was introduced in 1981 to production when the business changed in August. The last Gulfstar 50 AUX was laid the first week of April and rolled out in late August, after the filing I think.
As stated the powerboats made money for the group prior to 1981, but never seemed a passion. The Power division was bolstered by the buyout and the sail division disappeared. The mold
was sold to CSY and you will find 1988 and 1989 CSY50's with the same hull, but more plastic inside. They also shortened the keel and rudder
as most of these went into charter
I specialize in restoring GS50's and GS44, both reviewed by many authors and magazines as some of the 10 best cruising boats ever built. On the 50Aux the first year was 1975 and the last 1981. Every model year got better. Enthusiasts will fly from around the world for '81's as there were only 16 ever built and some were lost
in Andrew and Hugo. They are no-core fiberglass
cloth boats prior to 1981. Most were built as ketch
rigs and the sloops are a sought after commodity.
A great many of these boats have been charters, but don't let that scare you. These boats are 31 to 37 years old, WHO and HOW they were maintained is far more important at this stage of the game
. At this age new owners should prepare for Barrier Coating. This is an expensive job due about this point in most hulls life. The Gel coat is ground off and it is best to let the boat dry for weeks in a dry climate before applying the barrier coat. I picked La Paz
, Baja California
Do watch for dry rot
around the rear hatch
on the 50's and the original Gray plastic ports
are usually replaced with stainless on refit
. The Grays have a lifespan of about 25 years and there is usually some dry rot
to be repaired at the time, as most people on most boat don't re-bed the ports
often enough. Caulking dries out folks!.
Both boats are excellent for tall sailors having nearly 6'8" headroom
throughout, with the exception of the passageway, but that is true of most center cockpits. I prefer the model without the starboard side mini cabin. I don't want that many people sleeping on my boat anyway! I'm tall and the larger engine
room allows for more equipment
I'd frown on many other models and all of the motor sailers if you like to run the rags. Osirissail was right in the fact these were "Chebbies" and just the worst of both worlds. But I love to sail, so I'm jaded. I have boxes of trophies won in long and short distance racing
with my (bought new) 1979, restored 1978 and now restoring a 1977. Look up their PHRF!
At this juncture in time beat boats can be had for $20K-35K, while those well maintained and tricked out will sell for well over $100K, just about what they cost brand new out the door in 1979. Interior design leaves some to be desired. You will find lots of cubbys of wasted space and just Plain Jane is woodwork.
In some years of working on these I've found one that appeared to be laid up on to humid a day or something. It delaminated just behind the keel and had the owner struck something even moderately, it might have doubled up on him.
handed a beat up 1978 GS50 I won in a poker game
from the Mombassa, Kenya (Indian Ocean) to Englishman's Bay in Trinidad (Caribbean) in 1988, with two stops for food
I am less familiar with the GS44 but it too is a legendary cruiser, many like it more than the 50's because slip and maintenance
are less. This model is tall inside too and many of these were also built for charter
Electrically very simple but you could run most entire electrical
systems off the gauge wire run on each circuit on the 50's original wire was 10 and 12g when most other boats use 14 to 18g. Of course with today's LED lighting
and lower draw devices you could rip that out and sell the copper to the Chinese! (lighten the boat a bit too!)
The bow sprit is something I've removed on two and didn't exist on the CSY50. Only really serves are an anchor
roller and costs you that extra meter in those marinas
and yards that actually measure the boat. That can be as much as $60 a month more in some marinas
. But that sprit looks really nice with a well stuff bikini standing on it! Trust me!
My credentials? Sailing since 1968, Owned three GS50, restored 6 more of the 179 ever built, (you'll know my loving restorations as I stamp my "logo" beneath the hull number) managed one of the larger marine maintenance
companies in San Diego
between my major businesses in early the 90's and been a full time cruising vagabundo since 1999. I've sailed half the world from the Seychelles
Islands to Hawaii
, logged well over 50K miles and am currently restoring a 1977 GS50 in Mexico
to complete the other half before I turn 55. We should relaunch in March, 2013.
Right at this moment I am on a Cheribini/Hunter 37 Cutter
, (a lesser boat but also a "Corvair Classic" if you will, a boat generation before they became a Clorox bottle with a mast.) in Bahia
Balandra in the Sea of Cortez
. It is 7AM Dec 4, it is 72°F and the sun is coming up. Does your office have a corner window??? LOL!
Every boat has it's detractor - i.e. someone who missed a payment and the bank took the boat back et al... Consider your source...