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Old 27-12-2013, 22:37   #16
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

Add in a few brewer designs/ whitby. Maybe a allied mistress. If you can find one a Olin Stephens 47 Antilles. http://sparkmanstephens.blogspot.com...illes.html?m=1
Like this. Very cool design even though it's very old it still has value in power and draft. One of my favorite designs. But you probably can't have one as they are no longer made. There was a glass version made in Canada for a bit. Can't remember the trade name. The brilliant design just needs mention cause its so good.
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Old 27-12-2013, 23:23   #17
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

What size? What budget? What nonsense...
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Old 28-12-2013, 00:09   #18
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

How about the Canadian Waterline yachts?
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Old 28-12-2013, 00:21   #19
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Waterline are beautiful boats but not for a budget cruiser
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Old 30-12-2013, 07:20   #20
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

If anyone needs a more defined area. 30' - 40', up to $80,000.00.
In response to one or two comments, I'm not talking about totally inexperienced sailors, taking it to extreme examples helps no one.
From a retrofit standpoint most sailors who've been doing it for a number of years have adequate repair and maintenance skills, I don't expect the average sailor to be able to rebuild their own engine, or drop their own keel without assistance.
Those who would be able to do average refitting work and need to farm out some of the more specialized jobs, of course, it wouldn't be prudent to buy a boat of that type in the first place.
Over the years I've found a number of production boats from several different eras that would fit the bill, most with some work needing to be done, but not outside the realm of a fairly handy individual.
A number of the makes a few of the respondents mentioned are good choices that give people looking for cruising boats a bit more latitude when looking, that's basically what I was asking about.
As for my own boats, I've had mainly production oriented boats, but also some semi-custom boats, both had their good and bad sides, some of them could be cruised, maybe not as comfortable as a first line boat, but sailed prudently would do the job. Not every sailor here is going to sail the Southern Ocean.
Thanks for those who responded with some positive information.
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Old 30-12-2013, 07:44   #21
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

Let me add Catalina 36 to the list. I came so close to buying one back in 1986; today, it's a lot of boat for the money and right in the middle of your price target.
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Re: Good Production Models for Cruising?

So, 30-40', $80k (I assume that's buy & outfit, so lets say $55k to buy). Intent is to go offshore, but not high latitudes. Extra assumption to make is that the OP is part of a couple as this is the most common arrangement. If solo or with a family answers will change.

These are the boats I would consider:
CATALINA 36
CATALINA 38 /
CAL 34
CAL 35 CRUISE
CAL 36
CAL 39 MK II (1-147)
CAL 40
RANGER 33
RANGER 37
COLUMBIA 34 Mk II
COLUMBIA 36 MII
BAYFIELD 30/32
BAYFIELD 36/40
BABA 30
WESTSAIL 32
PEARSON 10M
PEARSON 33
PEARSON 35
PEARSON 40
SEABREEZE 35 (ALLIED)
BRISTOL 32
BRISTOL 40
CONTESSA 32
ERICSON 32-2
ERICSON 39
ERICSON 41
ISLANDER 34
J/34 C
J/30
J/40
MORGAN 34
MORGAN 38
MORGAN OUT ISLAND 33
MORGAN OUT ISLAND 41 CLASSIC
OHLSON 38
SAN JUAN 34 / CROWN 34
TARTAN 30
TARTAN 34 C
TARTAN 37-1
TARTAN 41
YAMAHA 30-1
YAMAHA 33
YAMAHA 36 / YAMAHA 37
YANKEE 30 MKI
YANKEE 38
C&C 30-1
C&C 40 CRUSADER
CORVETTE 31

Most of these have significant production runs (50 or 80 up to several hundred) so a few of them should be available at any given time and there is likely to be an active owner's group, either for the specific model or at least that manufacturer.
I think all of these would be available for $60k or less.
I generally am more interested in older boats so they are more represented here. In part I have this preference because the layouts are better suited for offshore sailing. If the OP were looking to liveaboard and maybe cruise the ICW and the Caribbean the choices would have been different.
Some of these boats would be a bit marginal for offshore work such as the J-30 and the Yamahas, but I think the build quality would alleviate this concern somewhat.
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Old 31-12-2013, 01:01   #23
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So, 30-40', $80k (I assume that's buy & outfit, so lets say $55k to buy). Intent is to go offshore, but not high latitudes. Extra assumption to make is that the OP is part of a couple as this is the most common arrangement. If solo or with a family answers will change.
O.K. I'll bite. What would be your solo options?
Nice work putting this list together by the way.

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Old 31-12-2013, 01:37   #24
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I would suggest checking out a Wauquiez Pretorien 35. We took 3 years sailing from Seattle to New Zealand on one and loved her. Great mix of performance, build, and liveability.

They are 80's boats with an IOR hull. France's answer to the Swan.

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i agree on the Pretorien 35 excellent choice. cockpit is tight and traveler location screws up having a decent dodger sprayhood. Many had that green saildrive. Never liked tile in galley or those huge brass taps but its French. Built quality far exceeds any of the modern built production cruisers. It is one of my favorite 35footers. The other one to look at is the Niagara 35 also an excellent choice in this size range
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Might be st the top of your range but we looked a 1988 island packet 38 (same as the newer 40s) and it sold for 85 well equipped.
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I would suggest checking out a Wauquiez Pretorien 35. We took 3 years sailing from Seattle to New Zealand on one and loved her. Great mix of performance, build, and liveability.

They are 80's boats with an IOR hull. France's answer to the Swan.

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Nice boat but you can't get it without blowing the OP's budget. Cheapest one on YW was $66k in Portugal. Even if OP is in Europe it would be real hard to stay below $80k with outfitting costs.
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O.K. I'll bite. What would be your solo options?
Nice work putting this list together by the way.

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Solo I would make the size range 20-35', so some of the original list would still work but I would add:

FLICKA 20
FALMOUTH CUTTER 22
DANA 24
ORION 27-2
NOR'SEA 27
BRISTOL CHANNEL CUTTER
TRITON (PEARSON)
TRITON (AEROMARINE)
CAL 2-27
CAL 25
CAL 28
CAL 29
CAL 30
ERICSON 27
COLUMBIA 26 MK II
CENTAUR 26 (WESTERLY)

and so on for various of the earlier model 27-30 footers from the makers on my original list. I have to go to work or I would finish the list.

The BCC is probably out of price range but occasionally there is one that is in. Currently there is one in FL for $55k.

Oh yeah, KIRK 36 (AMEL) should have been on original list.
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Id agree with Boatie, the smaller Beneteau are well put together and often good value used

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The Niagara 35 is doable and if its been well kept they are a wonderful offshore boat...nice ones can be had for below 50 large
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