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Old 03-07-2010, 08:45   #16
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Pearson 39 - aft cabn/aft stateroom
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:42   #17
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Beneteau Idylle 11.5 is a very good, blue water capable aft cockpit, aft cabin boat that you can get for well under $100k. I like the boat a lot, very familiar with it. It has huge storage in three cockpit lockers which makes it a good liveaboard boat. The aft cabin is fine for sleeping and changing clothes but not much else... other activities can take place in the v-berth or in the main cabin in a converted double

There are boats of this type that have much larger aft cabins but I think most are not good offshore boats.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:29   #18
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I love center cockpit boats a lot but under 40' this configuration starts to create serious disadvantages in the configuration below. Many people believe that a center cockpit only starts to make sense only above 40', and only starts to make sense a lot at closer to 50'. If the boat is too small, the cockpit well and the aft cabin, and passages to the aft cabin start to fight with each other, with the result that one or another doesn't really work. The aft cockpit has the advantage that the cockpit well volume mates perfectly in the hull with the volumes of lockers and quarter-berths. Besides that, a center cockpit on too small a boat can be very wet. But personally I strongly prefer center cockpit boats and probably put up with a lot to have that, instead of aft.

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This is the layout of a Moody 425 which is about as small as really makes sense, in my opinion, as a CC. The Oyster 435 is similar in layout. Both are decent performers compared to Pearsons etc. (I know Pearsons intimately) although a good Bene will leave both of them in its wake.

Both are probably going to be slightly north of $100k although with the strong dollar who knows. The Oyster was usually made as a ketch, which is odd considering the quite modern underbody.

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Old 03-07-2010, 12:11   #19
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There are some older affordable Bennies that have aft cabins 37 and 35, along with your recommended Idylle.
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:21   #20
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Well, nobody brought up a Hallberg Rassy Rasmus yet, so I will. Strong, North Sea built, windscreen, hard dodger. Can be had around 50k for a decent one, leaving lots of money for upgrades, personalization which you'd want to do anyway

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Old 03-07-2010, 12:37   #21
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Yes, I was aware of the Hallberg Rassy Rasmus. My only issue was that there is no passage way to the aft cabin, and that cabin usually ends up just being storage.

The Nor'Sea 27 is similar.
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Old 03-07-2010, 14:55   #22
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a problem with most of the small (,42ft) centre cockpit yachts is that there are often no deck lockers or lazarette, because they have been sacrificed to squeeze in the accommodation.
If you consider that a 38' aft cockpit yacht usually has reasonable cabin space, then to retain this an have an aft cabin you need to add another 6-7 ft minimum to retain same features, ie 44-45'.
There are lots of old centre cockpit Moody's and Westerlys <40' in UK, they were popular over there. Also Beneteau had the Farr designed (re-hashed versions of my yacht) 40 and 44CC series for a time, eg
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Old 03-07-2010, 15:57   #23
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it sure is looking more and more like that is the case
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Old 03-07-2010, 16:07   #24
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If you can find one, we love our Maxi 120. (NB - not the more modern, racer type 1200). Centre cockpit, 40' on deck, aft cabin with below decks walk through access, solid build. Roaring Girl (before our time) circumnavigated and is certainly a proven comfortable and safe bluewater boat. She is now 33 years old and going strong. We paid under GBP50K for her 7.5 years ago and you would still get one at under GBP100K unless newly modernised. But they are rare.

Of course, she's a ketch which opens a whole new can of worms ...
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When we were in the market last year, we looked at a Westerly Corsair 36 which has a center cockpit. We liked it a lot, especially the space below and in the cockpit lockers. Price was about $75K as well as I remember. Tough boats I'm told too.

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Then if you want something a little bigger, there is the Oceanranger at 38':

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Awesome suggestions! Thank you Roaring Girl and Doodles. New possibilities I didn't know were out there.
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Whatever you do don't get a Fantasia 35! They are terrible boats.
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Old 03-07-2010, 19:43   #28
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OMG! Where is the Navigation Station?
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