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Old 17-12-2015, 21:19   #16
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

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What 323 you looking at Person, Morgan or Beneteau?


1978 Pearson 32 323.
Thank you for helping me with information.
This one a little out of your budget, does look clean with a newer diesel. Good Luck with your search.

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Old 17-12-2015, 21:57   #17
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This one a little out of your budget, does look clean with a newer diesel. Good Luck with your search.

1978 Pearson 323 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
You will be surprised what a little negotiating power (which i don't have) will do.
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Old 17-12-2015, 22:33   #18
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

Sure you have negotiating power.

When you make an offer, you have had the boat thoroughly checked and you know how you came up with the number.

It's only hard to negotiate if the person making the offer doesn't actually know what (s)he based the number on - "I just figured X% below asking would be fair" isn't exactly a winning argument

Might not matter much if you offer close to asking or stay within the limit the seller already had in mind, but it becomes a little more important when the offer isn't all the seller was hoping for.

I can always motivate my offers, but that doesn't mean they always get accepted. Tho I did notice the boats I got a "no" on ended up lowering the asking price at some later point anyway. (Yes, I checked when I could ).
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Old 18-12-2015, 17:46   #19
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

Most has been said.
However, if water was present in rudder or deck and froze,
you have delamination.
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Old 18-12-2015, 22:06   #20
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

Here in Ontario, we envy the rust free cars from the southern states, like Florida and Texas. However, we have the rust free boats. You will find older boats in astonishingly good condition on the Great Lakes. Many with original rigging in good shape. The short sailing season means low UV exposure, and low engine hours. Our sails spend more time indoors than on the boat. Also, the Canadian dollar is circling the bottom of the toilet...great bargains if you have USD to spend.

FYI, I have owned 8 sailboats, 6 of them were 1971-1975.
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Old 18-12-2015, 22:32   #21
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Here in Ontario, we envy the rust free cars from the southern states, like Florida and Texas. However, we have the rust free boats. You will find older boats in astonishingly good condition on the Great Lakes. Many with original rigging in good shape. The short sailing season means low UV exposure, and low engine hours. Our sails spend more time indoors than on the boat. Also, the Canadian dollar is circling the bottom of the toilet...great bargains if you have USD to spend.

FYI, I have owned 8 sailboats, 6 of them were 1971-1975.
If I am correct you are the second person to advice me of Canada and i am close to canada. I will be looking on this opportunities, do you know someone with a Pearson 323 circa 78 or close?
Thanks
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Old 20-12-2015, 09:32   #22
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

Hi
Two years ago with sailboats wish list 40` $50000 / $100000 range I spent a busy two weeks shopping in Florida (Canadian dollar was at about par at that time) but returned to Toronto Ontario Canada and purchased Corbin 39`cutter.

Here is a link to a Canadian magazine notice Pearson 39 yawl 50000CAN/35000US

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Old 20-12-2015, 16:25   #23
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Two years ago with sailboats wish list 40` $50000 / $100000 range I spent a busy two weeks shopping in Florida (Canadian dollar was at about par at that time) but returned to Toronto Ontario Canada and purchased Corbin 39`cutter.

Here is a link to a Canadian magazine notice Pearson 39 yawl 50000CAN/35000US

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Thank you for the advice. But due to the circumstances i am going to Florida.
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

Could this be your boat?

Whitby 42 in Florida, needs a little spit and polish. Will likely sell under $10k.

The Whitby 42 is a very well made boat, worth the effort. At this price, and your budget, you would definitely have lots of $ left over for repairs.

Whitby 42 Ketch Hull 30 1974 ft Lauderdale Good Project to Start New Year With | eBay

Anyone care to comment?
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

My utterly uninformed opinion since I haven't been on one is that a 42 foot ketch is a bit too much for someone who has never sailed before.

Interesting review here:

http://www.boatus.com/boatreviews/sail/Whitby42.asp
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Anyone care to comment?
Just that she'll probably sell for well under 10k - hopefully for whomever buys her.
Tho with a lot of work, you'll end up with a lovely 40' boat that has cost about as much as a 60'

So sad to see a boat that's pretty much been left to rot
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My utterly uninformed opinion since I haven't been on one is that a 42 foot ketch is a bit too much for someone who has never sailed before.

Interesting review here:

BoatUS - Boat Reviews - Whitby 42
Yeap, that's too much sailboat for me.... but i thank you!
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I am looking at a 38 Irwing in Florida, 1969 Irwing?

any takes on that one?
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Re: Get a Michigan or Florida sailboat

I think you need to shop the boat and not the geography. There are boats taken out of the water in the northern winters that are exposed to freeze and thaw with water in laminates. There are boats in Florida taken out of the water for the summers and covered. There are boats with salt water corrosion that have had their rigging replaced. There are boats in Florida that are total crap. Actually, there are boat everywhere that are total crap! There are boats in Florida that are kept in Fresh water up the St. Johns River or places like LaBelle.

I think that it's a buyer's market and you can find what you want. There are even boats in Florida that were in the North before their recent passage south!
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I am looking at a 38 Irwing in Florida, 1969 Irwing?
any takes on that one?
Two thoughts:

a) please don't post every single boat you like on the internet - google and search the forums
b) see previous answers & info here and all your other topics.
c) when ignoring a & b, at least post the link ... (this is part of b )
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