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Old 29-10-2013, 19:16   #1
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Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

Aboard my 1979 Aries 32 "The Chester P" is a 2 burner propane stovetop and oven combo unit. The stove top burners work great, and the pilot for the oven burns well... however I can't get the oven to light. It seems like gas isn't flowing to the heater manifold in the oven space.

I'm a bit vague on what type of ignition system and/or safety valves are in place on this unit and a manual would be helpful to diagnose this. It must be more than the needle point valve in the thermostatic dial for the oven....

Everything I've picked up on-line talks about bi-metal saftey valves or thermo-couple controlled valves in the pilot flame area... perhaps... but I'm not seeing it.

suggestions welcome... and a way to source a manual truly appreciated. I'm sure that I could make most any universal or generic parts work if i knew what I was looking at.

I think that "Gas Systems" went out of business long ago.

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Old 29-10-2013, 19:29   #2
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

Never heard of "Gas Systems" but there should be no pilot light on a marine stove.
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Never heard of "Gas Systems" but there should be no pilot light on a marine stove.
Right, for the STOVE... the pilot is in the oven. It is only lit when you're using the oven itelf (and lit manually).
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

It is contrary to ABYC standards to have pilot light in any appliance on a boat.
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

IMO a boat should have a propane sniffer. The automatic valve, mine is mounted in the bottom vented propane locker, turns off the propane to the line and sounds an alarm if gas is detected in the cabin. The detectors are mounted near the sole because propane is heavier than air and collects in the bilges just before the boat goes boom

I don't know enough to recommend a brand, but mine is from Xintex: Marine Propane System Products from Fireboy-Xintex. If you think they are expensive try dying, it costs a bundle.

What you think is a pilot light, might be the oven burner. The fact that your oven won't light could be as simple as a clogged burner. You might be able to lift out the bottom pan of the oven and get to it. It could also mean you have a leaking line or fitting resulting in too little pressure.

I usually turn off my propane at the tank when I'm leaving the boat. If I'm leaving for a while, I turn on a burner after turning the gas off at the tank and use up the gas in the line. When I'm getting ready to cook, and turn it back on, it takes a few seconds before the gas line fills and burner lights.
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

No pontificating is required here... you either have access to a manual or you don't. Many manufactuerers including Sabre Yachts in South Casco (ME.) used this same oven manufacturer for years in the late 70's and early 80's.
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

Older Hillrange and Shipmates had pilots. Newer units do not. I had an older Hillrange that had the same problem. The thermostat had to be adjusted. As I remember, it had a tiny adjustment screw on the base maybe.
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No pontificating is required here... you either have access to a manual or you don't....
Sorry Chuck, I was fearful from your OP that you were looking to cobble something together. Forgive me father for I have sinned... With my preaching
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Re: Gas Systems Gimballed Propane Stove Manual?

Oven Troubleshooting Guide ➥ Sure Marine Service Inc.

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... All of the Gas Systems brand CNG stoves that I have seen are not equipped with thermocouples. They shut off the gas to the burner if the flame goes out from wind or whatever. They are a very important safety feature when using propane, because propane is heavier than air and will sink into the bilge. Buying a stove is not cheap!
You may be able to just buy new burners that will fit into the stove but I have heard from clients that they could not find anything to replace them. If the burners have thermocouples installed, then you are good to go.
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