Originally Posted by jpwales90
He has listed quite alot that would need to be done to get her ready for a 3-5 yr trip. they include:
New main, maybe new genoa
full bottom job (ground back, barrier coat and repainted)
Top sides, deck
and while its there hull
kitchen reno too. New counter tops etc.
Very, very rough guesstimates that you asked for:
$5k New main
$4k New genoa
$2k New solar panels
, controller, wiring
$1k New battery bank
$5k New radar
, chart plotter, ais
$10k Strip and Barrier coat (just a guess, no idea what this would cost in Borneo)
$10k Repaint everything (no clue, I did this in Cape Town
and think it was about that)
$2k Corian kitchen counters
Again, that's, like, misremembering numbers from what similar things have cost me in the past. The repower is a broad range because it depends how much work you do yourself, and if you can reuse the exhaust
system and etc.
But then I'd add:
$2k New liferaft
(after ~>5 years the current
one may cost more to recertify)
$0.5k New EPIRB
(the batteries die)
$0.5k New battery charger
(he mentions it's dead)
$1k New running rigging
$2k New rudder
(he mentions that)
+ A whole lot more for random stuff you don't know about.
I feel boats like that can be a great bargain for folks who know what they are doing, with maintenance
and priorities, and are willing to accept risk and let projects slide. Folks who are happy to sail with a bit of imperfection, live with the occasional broken or sketchy thing, and put off projects until they are absolutely necessary or inexpensive to do.
Say, someone who is fine with worn out sails
and will just keep patching them and keeping them going. And would keep the engine
working for as long as possible. And then repower it themselves, possibly with a used engine
from another boat. Or if they were super, they'd marinize a used diesel
engine from an 18 wheelers refrigerator
. And wouldn't dream of repainting the entire topsides or redoing barrier coat.
In my mind, folks like that would buy this boat for $20k, have $5k in their pocket to wrap up anything unexpected and get her in the water
, then take off and have fun wandering around Asia
. This boat should have great bones, and would do well to very budget
folks who want to spend money only as necessary. If the diesel
seizes, maybe they'd go teach English
for a while, living on the boat, to save up for a new one.
Or someone who really knows maintenance
and wants to do a complete refit
on a KP44. So they are just shopping
for a good 'core' to start replacing everything on. Some people do this so that they get to go cruising with all new equipment
and a boat that they've setup themselves and know inside out. They end up with a practically 'new' classic boat. This is often more expensive than buying
a sistership that doesn't need new everything.
But I feel that 'your list' reveals expectations that are way higher. For example, it's hard to tell from the photos and description, but I'm not sure I agree that the engine, solar, and sails
absolutely need to be replaced. Maybe they could wait a few years, or five. And I think, in that light, bringing this boat up to your higher standards might be more expensive and work than buying
a sistership that is already where you want it to be. I feel if you want to sail with a new engine and sails, and etc, it may be better to just buy a boat with them.
So, to the overall question -- maybe. It depends on what kind of future and experience you want. I feel like, to make sense, you'd have to delete a bunch of the aesthetic, optional (ais/radar/chartplotter), and 'not yet' items from the list, and be willing to do most of the work yourself. In that case, the boat could be a great bargain and the start of a grand adventure.