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Old 15-01-2011, 09:25   #16
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It seems unusual to have the wire snap in that location without any warning such as broken strands. I would have thought that the rigger would have closly inspected all the wire so that broken wire would not be in the realm of possibility.

I have always had over-rigged yachts in terms of wire size, and although people talk about having a weight penalty with more weight aloft, I would rather have the additional strength of the stronger wire.
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Old 15-01-2011, 09:26   #17
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Wow ,glad your ok . I can only imagine the force that wire came down with when it snapped.
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Old 15-01-2011, 18:43   #18
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It seems unusual to have the wire snap in that location without any warning such as broken strands. I would have thought that the rigger would have closly inspected all the wire so that broken wire would not be in the realm of possibility.

I have always had over-rigged yachts in terms of wire size, and although people talk about having a weight penalty with more weight aloft, I would rather have the additional strength of the stronger wire.
I've used this company before, they have a fairly good rep, never before have I ever heard anyone having a problem. I can only presume it was a serious issue with the wire.
It's sunday here right now, they don't work on Sundays, but they have been on the phone to me half a dozen times this morning, letting me know what's going on, so they are doing the right thing. They are putting all their other jobs on hold until this one is rectified.
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Old 16-01-2011, 17:23   #19
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Well, it's Monday morning 10.20am, just had another update from the rigger, they are taking some of the wire they have left over, they are taking it to the local university to stress test it.

In other news my son is upset he didn't get to see the mast come down. lol
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Old 17-01-2011, 17:20   #20
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Well, I just got a call from the riggers, it was the wire, no question of it, they took it to the local uni to stress test it in a lab yesterday, it failed at a tiny fraction of it's design tolerance.

Another victim of all this was our radar scanner mounted on the mast, a Furuno tech remove it off the old mast, took it away to test it, only to find it impacted the boat and killed it, a cable was ripped out of it, took half of a PCB with it broke it's seal, which let it fill with water.
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was this existing wire you've sailed with before or newly installed ?
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Old 17-01-2011, 17:25   #22
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wow, i wonder how many others folks have gotten that wire as I am sure they made a huge batch of it and distributed world wide?
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Old 17-01-2011, 17:31   #23
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It was newly installed, along with the rig.

As for other people I have no idea, but I am sure the company will feed it back to the supplier.
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yea, absolutely 'feed it back to the supplier'... absolutely... and yes, the supplier / mfg will have to contact all the installers... adn the installers will have to redo all the ships that now have patently weaker/defective cables...
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Do you know the country of origin for the wire? Rumors have it that some countries make better wire than others.
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Do you know the country of origin for the wire?
I don't know, but I guess I will find that out the next time I meet with them.
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Every search I've done over here the last 6mths comes up with dozens of chinese company's..... got to get real specific for UK suppliers...
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I have a friend that is a quality control manager for US companies having products manufactured by existing factories in 3rd world countries. He says that they will all make the quality specified as long as he's watching. In some of China, according to him, it is culturally expected to cheat in order to increase profits whenever possible.
This is a study group of 1 so obviously the margin of error is +- 100% but it's plausible.
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I have a friend that is a quality control manager for US companies having products manufactured by existing factories in 3rd world countries. He says that they will all make the quality specified as long as he's watching. In some of China, according to him, it is culturally expected to cheat in order to increase profits whenever possible.
This is a study group of 1 so obviously the margin of error is +- 100% but it's plausible.
It's really disappointing to hear that but by no means surprising. I guess everything come back to the almighty dollar or this case the Yuan.
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I've done it three times.
Welcome to the club.

Funny how time seems to stand still as you watch the rig come down.
I've done it twice, but would be willing to have another go at it if the rigger's insurance would cover it.
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