Originally Posted by Hard A Lee
I'm looking for boats with some different layouts, meaning something other than the usual salon area with a v-berth up front. My wife and I are looking for a cruising boat to live aboard full or part time with a small child. I grew up sailing and never really thought the v-berth was all that practical for sleeping. They're difficult to get in and out of and if your feet are toward the bow it can feel like your head is downhill. That's my opinion anyway. Making the dining table area into a bed is alright, but we don't want to be putting the table up and down all the time.
One that has caught my eye is the endeavor 37 plan a. I just don't know how usable the quarter berth would be for two adults.
We're trying to stay in the 36 to 40 foot range and hope to be cruising around the Caribbean and mostly island hopping but I'd like a solid cruiser that could take us anywhere if we decided.
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I like this topic and am glad you started the thread. I hope others offer interesting or creative or different layouts.
One thing you did not mention that I think is essential to know prior to recommending boats for a specific purpose or need, is "What is the Budget?"
IF you clearly state the budget
(the asking price
range) then it will help others help you.
Open Plan = Feeling of Openness
Bulkheads = More Privacy, Smaller Spaces, More "Walls"
Since you have a small child, your need for "privacy" for adults may not be as important as others' needs.
I happen to like some of the "Open Plan" designed boats I have seen, with most coming from French yards/designers. To me, they offer more openness and a better feeling of "space" inside the boat. I am not referring to the recent "wide body wedge hulled" boats and some recent models which appear very wide inside.
What do I mean by "open?"
I am referring to the lack of typical bulkheads and doors which separate cabin
space. The "open" boats usually are designed to have an open view from companion way to Vberth and may have just curtains for some privacy.
Regarding the Endeavour 37 A Plan:
I sailed on one for 30 day ocean passage
. I slept on the settee in the forward part of the boat. It is not a typical "Vberth." The drop leaf saloon
table is there. In general I found the boat comfortable at anchor
and while cruising and on ocean passage
and sea kindly (we experienced heavy weather).
IF choosing between an Endeavour 37 A or B plan for a couple with a small child, I would go with the A plan, as the B plan has the typical Vberth and loses inside space to a larger aft sail locker. I think the A Plan "master's stateroom" (with door for privacy) is adequate for a couple (if young) and as good as most on boats this size.
On the A Plan, the head was comfortably sized. On my voyage a large (280+#) sailor slept in the quarter berth (comfortably for him) so that would be a good place for the child, as it is always visible and easy to see from the galley
. The boat seems "roomy" compared to many other boats that are of that LOA
and that era (older boats from 1980s) . It has many opening ports
(good for tropics), more than a lot of boats that size.
The cockpit on that boat is very large with long seats (as I recall) and becomes a very nice outdoor space (get a good Bimini
to cover it). The cockpit coaming is high and the cockpit feels "secure" compared to many other boats. The design of the coaming from the cabin
makes it a drier boat from spray. As I recall
the freeboard was a bit high, so I would add a swim deck
and securely mounted steps to get in the water
and most importantly out of the water
. Our boat had a Monitor wind vane
on the stern, but for shorter voyages I don't see a need, would use a good autopilot
and use the swim step (or dinghy
davits) on the stern instead.