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Old 04-07-2013, 15:59   #16
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It comes with seven good wenches. Buy it.
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WENCHES, did someone say WENCHES, and seven at that. Heck I can't even afford the one I got.......Now the boat on the other hand could be a good deal.

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Who else did you expect to do the clean up and varnishing?...
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:05   #17
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Wow, where can I get some of those X ray eyes so I can se all that detail?
No x-ray eyes required. Just a little bit of critical thinking.

If the inside was worth seeing, I suspect that he would have included a few pictures. Since he didn't, I'm guessing that he knows that seeing the inside would not help in his efforts to sell the boat.

But that's just a guess. A "suspicion." I never suggested that I know any more about this boat than what can be seen from the pictures included in this thread. Unlike you, I didn't jump to any ridiculous, unfounded conclusions. I just expressed a suspicion.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:25   #18
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Outwardly does not look bad I think. (Definitely) remove the dirt, (possibly) replace the rigging, etc. - just the things we do with other projects. What awaits inside can be a surprise I think: I found that boats undermaintained on the outside tend to be even more undermaintained on inside. ;-(

Still, at this price, well worth a closer look.

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Old 05-07-2013, 08:06   #19
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No x-ray eyes required. Just a little bit of critical thinking.

If the inside was worth seeing, I suspect that he would have included a few pictures. Since he didn't, I'm guessing that he knows that seeing the inside would not help in his efforts to sell the boat.

But that's just a guess. A "suspicion." I never suggested that I know any more about this boat than what can be seen from the pictures included in this thread. Unlike you, I didn't jump to any ridiculous, unfounded conclusions. I just expressed a suspicion.
I think it would be the smell inside that would concern me!! I think this was someones last stop ,you know the last flight out! As a matter of fact I know it was,hold your nose while sailing and one should be ok..ha ha yuck yuck..
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There are few smells that cannot be eradicated, given enough soap and bleach. Throw out all the fabric items and start fresh, glass & varnished wood shouldn't hold any odors.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:21   #21
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It does seem to have more then a bit of a mold on deck and the sides. Perhaps its been through a named storm or two. Still for someone with oh $9000 and a lot of time and money it could be fun. I see lots O work though.
Are you one of the seven wenches? If so its a steal!
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I just got an email update from the owner, more pictures added to the craigslist link.
http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/3902380042.html

He said the cockpit is moldy as seen in the picture and not rotten.
And the other interior picture suggests that the inside isnt as bad as someone here questionably posted.

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Old 07-07-2013, 09:50   #23
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Yep. Good news the interior looks restore'able. Her engine somewhat rusty and abandoned.

When a boat is only 12k, who pays for lifting her out of the water to inspect?

Re the mold and obvious humidity around: see if there is a patch of cheap yard area where you might tent her to work on restoration.

How much can be fixed and how soon depends largely on the climate!

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Old 07-07-2013, 09:59   #24
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There will likely be some rot under that cockpit, nature of the beast. Not end of the world if someone is into a boat project. If the engine is shot a buyer whould evaluate teh sail condition etc.... engine , sails, rigging etc start adding up big time....
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I could be wrong but the aft deck area that is under the limbs of the above tree seems to be the dirtiest part of the deck. Forward of that doesn't appear as bad. In Florida we have certain trees that shed and drop tree sap at various times of the year and can make a mess of anything under it.
There are locations/yards in Key Largo and close by that can lift the boat. This would make a nice boat for someone with limited funds and patience. Just my opinion.

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IMHO the hogs are always structural elements; sound hull, sound deck, dry ballast/clean ballast bolts, healthy beams, sound rudder and rigging are all essential. Wet wood can be replaced but it is much more time consuming and costly to replace wet deck core. Etc.

This boat, in images, looks like a good fix-me-up potential. If the potential buyer has the skills, time and budget required, I think it is worth considering on-the-dry inspection and full survey (does not have to be by a pro surveyor as long the the party understands what they are looking for and what the common project killers are).

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Thumbs up for Barnikel's thoughts too..

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When a boat is only 12k, who pays for lifting her out of the water to inspect?
The buyer. Doesn't matter how much the boat is selling for, the buyer normally pays any expenses required for them to make the decision to buy or not.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:03   #29
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That boat loks like it could be a good project. Similar to a Union 36/Tayana 37 maybe. Building boats of different names in older molds was common in Taiwan. I guess it all depends on the build, but typically the early chinese builds made up with extra glass what they lacked in knowledge. another huge plus is the boat does not seem to have teak decks (?) If the Perkins in it can be salvaged... it could be a steal for what it is...but remember... it's a project. What's your boat experience?
Union 36 copy.. My buddy has one, and she sails quite well...

Decent examples are listed $50-70k...

For somebody with lots of time, looks like it could be a good deal...
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I wouldn't travel half way around the world for her - but if she was within easy looksee reach then seems worth a visit, if you have the skills and the time (a couple of years, plus?!).

No teak decks is a good start!
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