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11-03-2015, 03:05
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Location: Belgium
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by Cherp
We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?
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In dutch we call it the "Kuip"
Which if translated literally means the "tub".
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11-03-2015, 04:50
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#17
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by Cherp
We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?
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Oh boy, not another Rooster-Sheppard thread.
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11-03-2015, 04:55
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Re: Center Cockpits
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherp
We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?
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You will of course be leading by example:
Cherp
Join Date: Nov 2008
Boat:
Adams 12 center control box
or
Adams 12 center Kuip.
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11-03-2015, 04:57
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by Steady Hand
I like Center Cockpit boats, and would like one for three main reasons:
1. Typically more headroom in aft cabin and usually a wider aft cabin berth
2. Aft Deck (poop deck)
3. Better visibility forward on longer boats 45+ LOA
But…
Some look better than others. Often it is a matter of scale. Bigger boats often look nice with a CC. Smaller boats (less than 38 feet), not so nice sometimes. Some 40+ boats look "too tall" for my taste, but not all.
But there is a match out there for everyone if you look hard enough.
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Somebody beat my 35' CC with an ugly stick and just would not stop.
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11-03-2015, 05:00
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by weavis
"We" dont need to do anything.
How about we just keep the word cockpit as most of didnt know the origins and know what it refers to on a boat.
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I concur
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11-03-2015, 05:00
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by FamilyVan
Somebody beat my 35' CC with an ugly stick and just would not stop.
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I dont think its the vessel... the design of the kuip control box blue tarp leaves a lot to be desired.......
its a great boat..... !
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11-03-2015, 05:35
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Re: Center Cockpits
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
CC gives you a cricked neck looking up at the sails
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Cricked neck. Not if the sheet hand is elegantly reclined :-D
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11-03-2015, 05:37
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Re: Center Cockpits
C.f. is being odd today. Yes. Blue tarp photo with no mast up is the only photo I happened to have on my smartphone.
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11-03-2015, 05:42
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by Cherp
We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?
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Rather Its the pit for the coxswain.
Later, as trading happened, the "english" speaking ships visiting asia ports included cockpit referring to all things fowl.
A bit of an Etymology search might fix that for you.
However, changing it is just as silly as changing "man overboard" to "person/crew overboard"
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11-03-2015, 14:04
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Location: Hobart Australia
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Re: Center Cockpits
However, changing it is just as silly as changing "man overboard" to "person/crew overboard"[/QUOTE]
I like that. Calling "crew member overboard" sounds about right.
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11-03-2015, 14:23
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Re: Center Cockpits
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Originally Posted by Cherp
However, changing it is just as silly as changing "man overboard" to "person/crew overboard"
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I like that. Calling "crew member overboard" sounds about right.[/QUOTE]
PIW is actually the term in common usage now- Person In the Water.
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11-03-2015, 14:48
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Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: Center Cockpits
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherp
We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?
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US Army literally spent Millions of dollars changing and re-printing every aircraft manual it had, to change every where it said "Cockpit" to now say "Crew Compartment"
You can't make this up, that is not an Urban legend.
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11-03-2015, 14:50
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Re: Center Cockpits
Also about the same time TIT for Turbine Inlet Temperature was changed to ITT for Inlet Turbine Temperature.
TIT was apparently offensive, gotta love Congress
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11-03-2015, 15:04
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Re: Center Cockpits
Because some how calling the airplanes control station a cockpit is somehow more offensive than dropping air burst incendiaries on women and children.
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