Center Cockpits

[a64pilot]

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[a64pilot]

Sorry, didn't mean to get off topic.

We were talking about Center Cockpits


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[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Cherp

We need to remove the word "cockpit" from the sailing vocabulary. It refers to cock- fighting, where roosters are forced to fight to the death in a pit. It is no longer an acceptable practice in the western world, although it is still popular in south East Asia and maybe other places. How about the "control box"?

Evidently you have not spent much time on a racing sailboat with a crew full of high-testosterone, caffeine-fueled, Type-A personality, highly competitive, highly opinionated, and highly stressed, males.

On a competitive (or not) racing sailboat, the cockpit is commonly the scene of male posturing, colorful individuals, sharply voiced calls, high pitched screams, hawkish glances at the competitor, and strutting. Occasionally there is a bit of back biting or even blood too.

So, yeah, it is a "Cockpit" and rightly called that.

[Cherp]

Originally Posted by Steady Hand

So, yeah, it is a "Cockpit" and rightly called that.

No. You are wrong. A boat is referred to as a "she". So a "cockpit" is inappropriate. So ours would more rightly be a centre vagina boat. However, an aft-vagina boat also sounds inappropriate, so I would leave the naming of that to others.

[ozskipper]

Originally Posted by FamilyVan

I like that. Calling "crew member overboard" sounds about right.

PIW is actually the term in common usage now- Person In the Water.
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Sadly thats as stupid as a "person pit" hehe..

Everyone including Non Sailors- boaties knows exactly what MOB means and that its time to Crack To Action.

Silly terms like "Person In the Water" or "Person Overboard" take a bit of mental processing for any non boaties on board.

Its like being inside a burning building and instead of calling " fire fire fire", shouting "flammable materials returning to carbon" . It just doesnt have the same urgency to it.

Now back on topic. As far as a MOB is concerned, in a CC the crew are higher up and have better vision to find the MOB . Then again, its less likely it would be as easy as getting someone onto the sugar scoop of a modern aft cockpit. (you probably know that, but wanted to steer back to topic )

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Also about the same time TIT for Turbine Inlet Temperature was changed to ITT for Inlet Turbine Temperature.
TIT was apparently offensive, gotta love Congress


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To much free time to waste..??
Liberal minded ego's with nothing better to do..
I much prefered being called a 'Dustman' to what became 'Municipil Waste Disposal Operative' and is now an even sillier name I believe...
Get a life guys.. there's lots of much more serious things that need sorting...

[FamilyVan]

Originally Posted by ozskipper

PIW is actually the term in common usage now- Person In the Water.
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Sadly thats as stupid as a "person pit" hehe..

Everyone including Non Sailors- boaties knows exactly what MOB means and that its time to Crack To Action.

Silly terms like "Person In the Water" or "Person Overboard" take a bit of mental processing for any non boaties on board.

Its like being inside a burning building and instead of calling " fire fire fire", shouting "flammable materials returning to carbon" . It just doesnt have the same urgency to it.

Now back on topic. As far as a MOB is concerned, in a CC the crew are higher up and have better vision to find the MOB . Then again, its less likely it would be as easy as getting someone onto the sugar scoop of a modern aft cockpit. (you probably know that, but wanted to steer back to topic )[/QUOTE]

I didn't make up the terminology, I'm just saying major shipping companies are sshying away from MOB and many are changing their muster boards and SMS procedures to refer to PIW

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[weavis]

Last M.O.B. situation I was in several years ago went like this.

Hey weavis!

Yeah?

silly dip**** fell in.

Yeah? Rescue on, coming about..... tell the lads.

[biker6977]

Well to try and get this back on track- I am looking fro aft cockpit- 1. I don't want to duck and crawl to get under the bimini and into the cockpit 2. I don't want to have to drag dive gear around.
I do like the aft staterooms but will give that up for easier on off with dive gear. Looking for a sugar scoop with a walk through transome door if at all possible.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by biker6977

Well to try and get this back on track- I am looking fro aft cockpit- 1. I don't want to duck and crawl to get under the bimini and into the cockpit 2. I don't want to have to drag dive gear around.
I do like the aft staterooms but will give that up for easier on off with dive gear. Looking for a sugar scoop with a walk through transome door if at all possible.

Most Bendi's....

[FamilyVan]

Originally Posted by biker6977

Well to try and get this back on track- I am looking fro aft cockpit- 1. I don't want to duck and crawl to get under the bimini and into the cockpit 2. I don't want to have to drag dive gear around.
I do like the aft staterooms but will give that up for easier on off with dive gear. Looking for a sugar scoop with a walk through transome door if at all possible.

In that case, I can't think of any manufacturer that makes better use of space then Hunter, which no doubt is one of the reasons they're so popular with families.

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[robert sailor]

I was a rear cockpit guy (no cheap shots now) for most of my life but my wife got hooked on our present Moody 425 and while it took me awhile I'm starting to get to like it. The aft cabin is quite something, nice walk around double. Also has 2 large rear lazerettes that are great storage. I think when it comes to resale they may do better as there are few CC boats being made in this size range. Pretty good engine access as well. Bill Dixon did a nice job on the design so it doesn't look like a wedding cake and it sails very well. Years ago the only CC I liked was the Peterson 44 and it is still very easy on the eye as well as being an excellent sailor.

[lesterbutch]

I had an Irwin 37 with a CC and have missed it since. I really think they enhance living conditions on the boat. It happens the Irwin was a ketch and I miss that as well, really nice having all the sail options.

[FlightPlan]

I actually have both CC and AC. CC has the wheel and instruments setee and primary winches. The AC has wrap around seating and lazarettes, grille, swim ladder, dodger and emergency tiller. It is accessed thru the companionway out of the master state room. and was one of the main selling features for our boat over other CC's. It was also great for dive tank rack on the stern rail and in the aft space under the bench was a dive compressor. Since I have damaged my ear, I don't dive anymore and removed the rack and compressor. Replaced it with Isolation transformers. Furthermore, it is a great place to get away from the crowd and read or rest.


The one thing that was difficult to adjust to with this CC boat, was the fact that a lot of boat is behind the wheel station. It takes careful attention to back into slips and make turning maneuvers in tight fairways. I do agree that the main cockpit is smaller, but on our boat it is still larger then most other boats. We can comfortably seat 9 people in the cockpit, but it is a leg forest if you have to bail to the companionway in a hurry. The motion in big seas is very comfortable overall, and the dodger does a good job protecting from the bow splash.


A lot of space below, and one can walk fully erect throughout the boat below. I'm 6'-1" tall, and that was a prerequisite when we were looking to buy a new boat.

[PortClydeMe]

Originally Posted by FlightPlan

I actually have both CC and AC. CC has the wheel and instruments setee and primary winches. The AC has wrap around seating and lazarettes, grille, swim ladder, dodger and emergency tiller. It is accessed thru the companionway out of the master state room. and was one of the main selling features for our boat over other CC's. It was also great for dive tank rack on the stern rail and in the aft space under the bench was a dive compressor. Since I have damaged my ear, I don't dive anymore and removed the rack and compressor. Replaced it with Isolation transformers. Furthermore, it is a great place to get away from the crowd and read or rest.


The one thing that was difficult to adjust to with this CC boat, was the fact that a lot of boat is behind the wheel station. It takes careful attention to back into slips and make turning maneuvers in tight fairways. I do agree that the main cockpit is smaller, but on our boat it is still larger then most other boats. We can comfortably seat 9 people in the cockpit, but it is a leg forest if you have to bail to the companionway in a hurry. The motion in big seas is very comfortable overall, and the dodger does a good job protecting from the bow splash.


A lot of space below, and one can walk fully erect throughout the boat below. I'm 6'-1" tall, and that was a prerequisite when we were looking to buy a new boat.

Well I say, good sir! Your flight plan is on target.

As much as I love Hinckleys, Little Harbors are always on my radar, and more heavily as of late. Class act yachts, they certainly are.

Not my boat, yet I'd be thrilled if this 63' LH CC was. Beam not listed, yet I'm guessing 16'+. The CC is so elegant, and apparently very skipper friendly. Salivating heavily. Please forgive the drool.

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