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Old 05-11-2008, 19:37   #1
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Carter Offshore Competition 30

Hello, my wife and I just purchased a wonderful sailboat, but can't find any information on the boat.

Here's what we have:

Make: Carter Offshore Ltd.
Model: Competition 30
Hull #: 28
Year: 1974

We need to order some new sails & get the running rigging replaced, as well as the boat hauled out to get the bottom repainted.

Does anybody have any information or know where I can find it? Any help would be very appreciated.

Thank you!

EDIT: Added Year
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:55   #2
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Found out more: the main designer:

Designer: Richard "Dick" Carter

Does anybody know how to get a hold of Mr. Carter or a hold of anybody that worked for him, that might be a way to find some info

Thank you!
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:00   #3
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I raced with Dick Carter a few times in the early '70's. The Carter boats are an important - but short - chapter in racing history. I'm not sure how to contact Dick now but Bob Perry and Chuck Paine both spent some of their early design years working for Dick. Here's a quote from a Cruising World piece:

Dick Carter was an impassioned sailor blessed with a vision and wealthy antecedents. When the new International Offshore Rule (IOR) was launched in 1968, his office was flat out, creating boats for racing sailors eager to play the newly defined game. While his staff, led by Tanton, pushed out drawings, Carter flew around the world signing clients and organizing production runs of boats to be built in Poland, Greece, and Japan. The designs flew off the boards--the Carter 37, the Carter 39, Half-Tonners, One-Tonners (Ydra won the One-Ton Cup in 1973), VendrediTreize (Jean-Yves Terlain's monster 128-foot entry in the 1972 OSTAR)--until the spike in polyester-resin prices caused by the Arab oil embargo of 1973 made the bankers carrying Carter's lines of credit blink. They cut him off. Carter Offshore drifted to a standstill.

One thing you might consider is giving Bob Perry a call. You can even hire him as a consultant for a reasonable fee. Besides the benefit of his advice, the discounts he can get on new equipment will cover a lot of his fee.

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Old 06-11-2008, 07:03   #4
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Dick Carter's "Rabbit" won the Fastnet in 1965. See Fastnet race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:04   #5
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Thank you, both, for the information. I sent an email to Bob Perry's office & hope to hear back from him... nothing as of yet, but I'm hopeful.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:21   #6
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Hello again... still nothing, and I've sent an email to Mr. Perry.

I'm hoping somebody will know where to find the specs &/or information =)...
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Old 12-11-2008, 13:53   #7
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Spidey:
I answered your email.
Your boat has nothing to do with Dick Carter.
Your boat is an Alan Gurney designed Competition 1000 half tonner originally called STREAKER and owned by my old houseboat roommate Dick Pratt. The boat was raced extensively in Seattle in the early '70's. Nice old boat. I'm certain I raced on it at some point.
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Hello Bob, thank you for replying here! Unfortunately, I didn't receive your response via email. Is there any chance you could resend it, please? Or, maybe post the data here.

Thank you, again!
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Old 13-11-2008, 08:21   #9
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Spidey:
I think I said all I have to say here. So there's no point in forwarding the email.
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Old 13-11-2008, 11:12   #10
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Nice to see you here. I have an 1982 Mirage 27, one of your designs. First keelboat for us and we are very fond of her. Sails well, forgives our mistakes, solidly built. Comfortable to sail and fun. Hull 413.


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Old 14-11-2008, 10:13   #11
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Conny:
Glad to hear you like your boat. It's a sweatheart from a fun time in the early days of my work. If you ever need drawings give me a shout. I have all the original design drawings. They are hand drawn and in my opinion works of art, but im biased.
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We too enjoyed our 77/78 (?) Mirage (26). Maggie & I cruised Lake Superior aboard “Auspicious” for several years before departing for southern waters aboard “Southbound” (‘84 C&C 29).
She was an excellent boat in all regards, excepting the OMC Saildrive (gas guzzler, w only a 5 gal day tank).
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Gord:
was that OMC original equip?
I don't recall that being the engine we drew in the boat. I'm sure it is not.
I should check the drawings.
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Gord:

That's a small tank. Connemara has at least a 10-gal tank and maybe 12 gallons. It's kind of hard to judge when you fill it from jerry cans. But the large tank came in handy this summer when the wind died 20 miles from Hamilton and we had to motor all the way. Boring. Hot. But we got there (on fumes, I think).

The OMC was original on Connemara, but I spoke to a 27 on the lake this summer who was pottering east with an outboard. Turned out his OMC saildrive had packed it in and he had built an OB bracket on the transom rather than repower. Looked very odd, but it was working for him.

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Old 17-11-2008, 08:20   #15
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OK, now you have my attention.
I'm going to check the drawings and see what we drew on that boat.
It could be, knowing that client, that we drew nothing and just left that to him (Dick Steffen). With the Mirage projects we essentially drew a hull, keel and rudder shape, a deck shape and deck plan, an interior layout and a rig. Dick the the structural details.
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