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05-04-2014, 10:56
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Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Hello,
Can anyone tell me how it works when, as a Canadian, we purchase a boat in the US and register it in the US and leave it in the US - we do not plan to bring it back to Canada....will we run into any problems in the US or is there anything else we need to know or do.
Thank you kindly.
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05-04-2014, 11:02
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
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Originally Posted by jillmuir
Hello,
Can anyone tell me how it works when, as a Canadian, we purchase a boat in the US and register it in the US and leave it in the US - we do not plan to bring it back to Canada....will we run into any problems in the US or is there anything else we need to know or do.
Thank you kindly.
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Every state has different registration rules so it depends on what state you purchase it in and what state you intend to keep it in.
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05-04-2014, 11:10
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
As Canadian you need residents permit and address in US to register boat under US flag.
You don't have to do anything else.
If you can't register in US you can register under Canadian flag and than you need cruising permit for US waters.There is no duties or taxes anyway unless you sail into Canadian waters.
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05-04-2014, 11:44
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Thank you, we keep the boat at boat yard for the summer months in the states, then sail to bahamas in the winter. WE don't have a resident address in the US accept for the boat yard where we haul our boat out for the summer months. If this address doesn't suffice, then how long is the u.s. cruising permit for? Thanks again,
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05-04-2014, 12:02
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Buy the boat and have it deregistered in the USA. Apply for and get Canadian Bluebook offshore registration. Simply means the boat is not coming into Canada so you don't pay any tax but you get the normal blue book registration. Make damn sure when you buy it the whole deal is done in the USA, do not involve a Canadian offer to purchase signed in Canada. Also take delivery of it in the USA. Assuming you do that then you will be good to go. If for some reason you have to bring it into Canada apply for and receive a work bond prior to entering Canada and you can stay for up to 6 months without paying tax. Good Luck!
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05-04-2014, 12:54
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Thanks so much - is there a charge or fee for the bluebook canadian registration? Your assistance is appreciated.
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05-04-2014, 13:58
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Do you know where to find the forms for the registration you mentioned.
I know only of two ways to register boat in Canada.
One is licence by each province the other one is federal registration for Canadian boats sailing offshore to other countries except US.
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05-04-2014, 19:02
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
You cannot document a US built boat in the US as a Cdn, you may state register it, pay sales tax, get annual cruising license etc. that's it in a nutshell, renew the license annually by going offshore for 15 days after the license expires, then return and renew the l;icense, it seems you are not doing the research on line properly and you may run into serious issues.
Going to sites such as this is not the best place to get expert advice, CBP.GOV is a good place to start
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05-04-2014, 19:14
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Yep ya gotta be a US citizen to document the boat but there are ways around that like creating a US corporation. That has issues as well. Read this.
USCG National Vessel Documentation Center, Fee Page
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05-04-2014, 19:51
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Ohfergawdssake. Pay the damn tax. Fly the Maple Leaf honestly and with pride. And get on with your life.
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05-04-2014, 22:54
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
I can't remember what our last registration fee was but around a couple of hundred bucks. All the info is online and it doesn't take that long. Because the name is unique in all Federally registered boats you can submit your name and find out if its OK, if not you'll have to change it or put a number behind it (Foreplay 11). Don't bother with any kind of provincial registration as they are not accepted by other countries.
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06-04-2014, 04:27
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Thank you, no more replies required. Found my answer.
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06-04-2014, 08:03
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
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Originally Posted by jillmuir
Thank you, no more replies required. Found my answer.
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Not in this thread you didn't. Only half of one, the Canadian side. The other half is what you must do in the location you're keeping the boat for the summer. There you may be subject to fees and taxes and registration requirements. You can find yourself buying and registering in one state but having to register again in another. The question I asked earlier of what state is still one you need to pursue. Because which state and how long is relevant. For instance, we're going to the state of Washington but must be careful as 60 days there requires registration with the state.
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06-04-2014, 08:33
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
The are many Canadian registered bots in Lake Champlain for years there.
I did help to friends register boats in Transport Canada one is 80% at the time cruising in US water the other one was registered in Europe, crossed Atlantic and now in Caribbean coming this summer to East Coast. NO duties , No taxes until the boats cross Canadian boarder.That is not avoiding anything its just the Canadian law.
Andrew
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07-04-2014, 07:10
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Re: Canadian Buying US Boat and Registering It in US
Hi
We live in eastern Ont. and bought our boat 3 years ago in Annapolis MD. and keep it in Mooney Bay NY. We bought our boat with a Canadian broker who did all the paper work for us, however if you search the web you can find all the details you need. As someone mentioned, the first thing to be done is de-list the boat with USCG. Then the boat gets registered with the Canadian Ship registry, cost at the time was $250. You need to pick a name that no one else has, if you search the ship registry website you'll find a list of names that are in use, also you'll have to pick a home port from the official list. Once all is done you'll receive a registration with a serial number, the name and port go on the boat and the number is fixed to the inside of the hull. At the time, the state of MD. didn't collect sales tax on used boats that were leaving the state and as long as our boat never enters Canadian waters we don't pay Canadian taxes. The boat can come into Canada with a valid work order for repairs only, however be careful, apparently the rules on this are changing. If you search the web you'll be able to find a Canadian broker who can do the paper work for you.
Good Luck
Allan
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