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Old 31-12-2013, 03:17   #571
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

Originally Posted by K_V_B View Post
The roughest ride I ever had in my life was on a steel schooner build in the early last century... The idea that "heavy with long keel" automatically equates safety and comfort is just nonsense.

There is a guy in France who, after spending a few years cruising Patagonia set up a yard to build the ultimate (in his views) go anywhere blue water yacht. Have a look: Bienvenue chez Boreal

If "full keel, heavy displacement" ever entered Jean-François Delvoye's mind, it didn't linger there for long...
Yep, if "full keel, heavy displacement" was so good, many more manufacturers will still be building them.

The rare full keel builders are the Morgan Motor Company of the sailing world

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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

Full keelers are inherently slower, rollier, and more expensive to make. Some heavy steel schooners were top heavy and would roll people nuts. All in the design. Sir Francis C. complained bitterly about his tender GM4 but since it was paid for by his sponsors, did not have much choice. And of course there are the innumerable Cal 20s that have sailed across the Pacific.

Yes, to a prior post, Yamaha 33s were extremely rugged. The Japanese version did not have much head room and was a bare bones racer but none were ever sunk in Japan, even those sailing through typhoons in the Sea of Japan. Hearty sailors, those Japanese. Only other place with truly crazy sailors were the Falklands with folks who would day sail in 50+ knots of wind.

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