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Old 27-05-2011, 13:14   #421
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

Hmmm, going Sailing on Sunday, looks like it may well be on a Jeanneau, never been on one before, ive done the Bavaria 44 over 2 weekly periods so this is a 1st, will give you my humble opinion Sunday nite
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Old 27-05-2011, 13:16   #422
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Forgot to ask, how to I get a photo on my profile, not sure you want to see what I look like but ive a nice photo at the helm I thought i would put on, ive looked at at all the info inside my profile data but cant see anything, yes I know, probably really easy, but I cant see any instructions....thanks, Pablo.
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Old 27-05-2011, 13:49   #423
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)

Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.


Even Oyster uses laminates.
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Old 27-05-2011, 13:53   #424
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

silly, that's not chip board, that's plywood.... but it is all covered in laminate.

this is chipboard...


You have the good stuff ; -)
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Old 27-05-2011, 13:54   #425
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

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Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)

Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.


Even Oyster uses laminates.
Great pic, Mark. Laminates are a far cry from chip board and the MDF stuff Ikea uses. That stuff will disintegrate at just any hints of moisture.

What Sarafina said :thumbs up
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Old 27-05-2011, 14:44   #426
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Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)

Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.


Even Oyster uses laminates.

They put it there so you would see it and say to yourself "man that's good wood" to prevent you from looking elsewhere at the rest of the wood.

Just kidding!
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Old 27-05-2011, 16:06   #427
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right?

How about this Beneteau?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=32744&url=
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Old 27-05-2011, 16:11   #428
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chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right?
chipboard is great,just dont get it any where near a marine enviroment,or any dampness,great for centrally heated houses.............
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Beneteau uses plywood and wood veneer just like oyster HR etc. In fact given the volumes they can use best quality stuff as it costs them a fraction that smaller boat builders pay.

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Good steel welding is not easy. Nor can you take a class and become a good welder. It matters not whether it's stick or MIG or TIG. If you examine the welds under X-ray there's world of difference between talented beginners and experts. Throw in some overhead or awkward positions and then see.

I'm not knocking you're efforts , just don't claim it's easy merely because you did a class or two.

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I could not agree more and used aluminium can be impossible to weld satisfactorily due to porosity not visible by eye.
From a straight welding point of view the advent of three phase power outlets being provided at most major world reefs, rocks and known hazards all free of charge is an attraction to steel boats. Fiberglass does not require any kind of machinery to apply and a simple repair kit can easily be stored aboard does not imediate action to be taken if a little chip of paint gets dislodged. Before anyone takes exception this subject was about a line of boats all built from glass of some type. Secondly I know no one who likes steel will take any notice of what anyone says regarding the deficencies of Steel or alloy but there are reasons most manufacturers use f/glass.
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Old 27-05-2011, 17:42   #431
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

three phase power outlets - maybe so...but I will go with a generator or perhaps a stick for temporary repairs.

Steel is wonderful stuff...
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?

if you are 6'4, thenye has to look for boats designed by TALL designers--mine has 6'4 headroom thruout..lol but is an older boat-- formosas were designed by a tall guy-- same with hardin and ct and force.....but they have rep following them they dont deserve..LOL.... and can be found dirt cheap. they arealso quite striking when sailing with all sails up and a bone in hteir teeth......
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chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right?

How about this Beneteau?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=32744&url=
How much surely a zero to many.

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Old 28-05-2011, 14:04   #434
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How much surely a zero to many.

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chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right?

How about this Beneteau?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=32744&url=
More like a work of art that belongs on a pedestal!

I'd be afraid of scratching something.
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