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Old 27-11-2012, 00:32   #46
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It's pure crap. Look at the hull lines. There isn't a boat there that was designed in the modern era.
Hmmmm...interesting point. I wonder why that might be?...
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Old 27-11-2012, 01:40   #47
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Great thread! I guess I did 9000 miles in a trailor sailor (Contessa 26) less than 8 foot beam, etc, etc. Several trips up and down the Calif coast , then Mexico, Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Hawaii, in only a trailor sailor. The so called minus of a bubble hatch never leaked a drop, and the submarine forward hatch(Rogers built) never leaked. Gosh, I guess I never should have left San Francisco Bay in a trailor sailor. The dreaded U bolt for chain plates(european) never gave any problems. I wonder how anyone ever gets going by reading all of the negatives._____Grant.
Many years ago I owned a similar trailor sailor and had great time.
99% of the offshore sailing I have done since then could have been done in that trailor sailor.
The problem is the other 1%
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Old 27-11-2012, 04:34   #48
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Thanks for the list. Is it verified to be accurate?
-Bruce
Well, looks pretty accurate to me at least the boats I've looked at. You can check by clicking on a few of the boats and reading the data.
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Old 27-11-2012, 04:49   #49
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Here's a good test for this clever little list: how many of these boats incorporate a sugar scoop transom?

Answer: Zero.

This list claims that not a single boat ever designed with a sugar scoop transom qualifies as a Blue (capital B) Water (capital W) boat.

That's Crap with a capital C. Whoever made this list wants you to think that any sailboat designed after the invention of computer technology is flawed.

That's also crap.
Go easy on them Bash, the list is not meant to be all inclusive. I took a quick look at the website and found this ...

About Us
How it all began…
Bluewaterboats.org is a project that’s bringing together a useful collection of boat reviews for the cruising community. It was kicked off by Will one summer while he was procrastinating on his sailboat when he really should have been doing some boat maintenance. Rosie joined the fold with her love of pocket cruisers and they are joined by new friends who write on the odd occasion.

We are accepting your articles…
Many of the articles appearing here have been submitted by the community, please email articles to Will on at will@bluewaterboats.org.


Sounds like they are just trying to develop a resource not make a definitive list.
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Old 27-11-2012, 04:56   #50
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Let's not forget those that were one-offs, custom built and had short enough production runs not to make the lists. My Offshore 33 is somewhat of a rarity but the designer went on to design some of island packets boats and the similiarities in hullform are obvious.
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Old 27-11-2012, 05:07   #51
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It's pure crap. Look at the hull lines. There isn't a boat there that was designed in the modern era.
I wouldn't say it's crap. It's just what some folks see in their mind's eye as a Blue Water Boat. There's no need to get upset at the work these folks put in making up their list.

They use Moore 24's in the 2100 mile Transpac Race, but not too many folks think Moore 24 as Blue Water! Get it?

Think of it like this, when some folks think sailor, they think beard, deck shoes and a pipe. Look at the way they had the sailor fixed up in the movie Perfect Storm. And btw, he was on a WestSail 32. Blue Water Boat? I'd say yes! But only if the captain has a beard and is wearing deckshoes!
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Great thread! I guess I did 9000 miles in a trailor sailor (Contessa 26) less than 8 foot beam, etc, etc. Several trips up and down the Calif coast , then Mexico, Marquesas, Tuamotus, Tahiti, Hawaii, in only a trailor sailor. The so called minus of a bubble hatch never leaked a drop, and the submarine forward hatch(Rogers built) never leaked. Gosh, I guess I never should have left San Francisco Bay in a trailor sailor. The dreaded U bolt for chain plates(european) never gave any problems. I wonder how anyone ever gets going by reading all of the negatives._____Grant.
What negatives? Your boat is on every single Blue Water List out there and is documented to having circumnavigated at least twice.
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There is another proven blue water choice available. Previously you had to build it yourself to get one. For its credentials have a look at http://atomvoyages.com/articles/sail...05-iceman.html . You can find out more detail on the Wylo and the various stages of build that she can be supplied at Voyaging Yachts ltd. www.voyagingyachts.com . Enjoy.
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