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Old 10-11-2010, 07:18   #16
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but the problem is what happens if the bad weather catches you if you are on a long passage? that scares me.
You'll die! Just like if you are in a Tartan if it sinks. Death either way.
It should scare you. Mind you, the bodies found floating amongst Beneteau debris are 36% better looking than bodies off Full Keelers.

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Old 10-11-2010, 07:20   #17
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can someone direct me to a link which lists all the sailboats with their stability, capsizing factors and all. I was looking at one yesterday, forgot to mark it as 'favourite'.
Try this Google search: Google Search
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You'll die! Just like if you are in a Tartan if it sinks. Death either way.
It should scare you. Mind you, the bodies found floating amongst Beneteau debris are 36% better looking than bodies off Full Keelers.

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LMAO. indeed funny. i guess sailors in this forum have good sense of humor.

So, please advise good seaworthy boat with speed.
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:56   #19
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Mark is up to his old tricks.

Seriously, though. Might consider a Tayana 37. You can get a good one in your price range and there's hardly a boat out there that has a better bluewater pedigree (and before I hear catcalls, what I mean is that allegedly there as more T37s out there cruising than any other design).

Of course, I am biased.
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Just remember, 90% of male bodies recovered by the CG have their fly down. Storms aren't your only worry.

Capsize Calculator, for any boat.
http://www.anyboat.com/webpages/capsize.htm
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Just remember, 90% of male bodies recovered by the CG have their fly down. Storms aren't your only worry.
Unless your a 'Naked Sailor....'
That way you've TWO hands to hang on with....
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90% of male bodies recovered by the CG have their fly down.
I get worried about those Coast Guard guys...
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I get worried about those Coast Guard guys...
HAH, that was great!
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hi there everyone
this is my first post on this site. I am eager to learn from experienced members/boat-owners that which ocean going monohull boats can be obtained in a moderate budget of 37k-50k USD. length 31-36ft. looks are not an issue :-) i am interested in boat having good seakeeping qualities. after having searched many sites, i find only Catalinas fitting my budget.
Nauticats, Halberg Rossy are pretty expensive. so please advise.


I have come to the conclusion that building your own boat is much cheaper in the long run. If you buy a used boat, then you will have to invest that much more in it to get it the way you want it and be fit for sea.
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I have come to the conclusion that building your own boat is much cheaper in the long run. If you buy a used boat, then you will have to invest that much more in it to get it the way you want it and be fit for sea.
Possible, but I doubt it. The key is to get a good used boat. That means a boat that was well-built to start with and doesn't need too much in the way of fixing up (and that is relative depending on your definition of too much). I think it's quite reasonable to buy a good $50K boat and have it ship shape at under $80K. Chances are building a similar boat would cost no less than 3x that much.
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Just remember, 90% of male bodies recovered by the CG have their fly down. Storms aren't your only worry.
And the other 10 percent were sailing naked.
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Read "Fastnet, Force 10". An account and study of what went right and wrong in one famous racing disaster. There's a lot to be said about the choice of boat, the preparation of boat, and in the end moreso the crew. There are always inexpensive used copies to be had if your library can't bring one in for you. (Interlibrary loan services are a great resource, because sailing books just aren't in many libraries!)

" but the problem is what happens if the bad weather catches you" The boat can survive more than most crew can, but a good crew can also contribute a lot to simply staying out of harm's way, especially with modern weathercasting.
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Sailboat Listings - sailboats for sale

Look for:

Bristol
Cabo Rico
CSY
Hallberg Rassy
Island Packet
Pacific Seacraft
Sparkman & Stephens
Tartan
Tayana

This is certainly not a comprehensive list and each is subject to debate, as is the very definition of "Blue Water Boat". However, the above are all solid boats that - with the right preparations - will do the job within your budget (assuming you are not looking for a boat over 35').
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@hellosailor : I am sure the book wont be available in India. :-) will look at Amazon.
Since you broached the subject again regarding boats caught in storms. whats the best thing to do? lock yourself in and ride out the storm?
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Amazon.com: Storm Tactics Handbook: Modern Methods of Heaving-to for Survival in Extreme Conditions, 3rd Edition (9781929214471): Lin Pardey, Larry Pardey: Books: Reviews, Prices & more

A dry read and in the end, their answer is to heave-to.
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