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30-10-2008, 08:00
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Halifax NS
Boat: '75 Hunter 27 SD
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Big Little Boats
I am beginning to look for possible boats that a couple can live aboard for 1 year to start. Coastal Cruising only around the Florida Keys and Abacos area.
I am looking in the 30-35' range, but am looking for the biggest "feel" below decks. I have read good things about the smaller Morgan OI's, any other suggestions?
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30-10-2008, 08:34
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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Columbia gives a lot of space for their length.
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30-10-2008, 09:05
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Georgian Bay, Canada
Boat: Catalina 34 - "Points North"
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The Blue-Water types may not agree but, for the use you describe, Catalina and Beneteau have a lot of space below relative to length.
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30-10-2008, 10:27
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Halifax NS
Boat: '75 Hunter 27 SD
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LOL I somehow forgot about the Hunter, Catalina Beneteau trio. Even though I have looked at a few already. Thanks.
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30-10-2008, 11:46
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
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Try West Sail 32. Really feels like a big boat down below and is blue water. The old Mariner/Fuji ketches have the same feel but condition is the key. Dave mentioned two not a trio and I'd second his two. Newport is the largest below of all I've been aboard but they are not built to be off shore boats.
Kind regards,
JohnL
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30-10-2008, 13:16
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Texas
Boat: Watkins 27
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Island Packet 37 I know of a very well kept Newport 30 that is for sale. I see it everyday at the marina. If I could swing the price she wouldn't be for sale any longer.
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30-10-2008, 14:07
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when you say big little boats how big;little are you talking? actual size and condition play a big part in picture and price
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30-10-2008, 16:47
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern Caribbean & Buffalo, NY
Boat: 44' CSY "Walkover" cutter, La Nostra
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One of the biggest boats I know of for its length is the CSY 37 - huge! Sail pretty well, too, considering that they are rather heavy ... which, of course, means they are rugged. Not a lot of them on the market however, and since they are all in the 30 year range condition will vary a lot.
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CSY 44 W/O cutter
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30-10-2008, 19:03
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Western KY
Boat: Morgan 321, BELIEVE
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GREENMAN,
My two cents worth: I have a Morgan 321. I find her very big for her size. Her 11.5 beam makes her feel roomy and she has plenty of stowage. Also, her 4 ft. draft makes her good for gunk-holing.
Duke
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30-10-2008, 22:45
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Location: Vancouver BC
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size
I'm still of the opinion that monohulls are best compared by displacement and not length. It doesn't take many minutes to figure out that a Sam L Morse BCC 28' is running $8.33 per pound, while the Alerion Express 28 is running about $14 per pound on Yachtworld. (admittedly, more than half the Alerions are new.) The Beneteau 28.5 comes out at $6.64 per pound. I know this isn't your size range, just giving you an example of similar length vessels of differing build qualities.
Displacement does not exactly equate to size of boat, but it is a good indicator and, more importantly, is a strong indicator of load-carrying ability. Donald Street estimated a good cruiser for long-term liveaboard required approximately 6,000 displacement per permanent crew, which would allow extended personal gear, reasonable amounts of food and water, plus allowances for fuel and comfort.
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31-10-2008, 03:48
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Location: Virginia
Boat: B24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amgine
I'm still of the opinion that monohulls are best compared by displacement and not length...
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Yep, I agree… needless to say with our little chunk we’ve decided that either Don Street is being way to extravagant with his requirements (conversely, I’ve found anything much above 10,000 per as far too outsized for my tastes), or else -- either me or my Bride ain’t permanent crew… but I think displacement, while not the exclusive measure, is a primary criterion to start with when contemplating spending extended periods aboard…
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11-01-2010, 13:46
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Boat: Custom Marples 40 FC
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Take a look at the Able 32. Its a great boat, well built, and designed by Chuck Paine. If you are considering any sailing in the Bahamas.........the Able 32 is also a swing keel. 3' 8" with the board up and 7' 6" with the board down.
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11-01-2010, 18:12
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Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Space inside comes with the beam. Standing height helps too. Too big cockpit makes for a smaller inside etc. But a big cockpit is nice in the tropics because this is where you live etc.
Go for a beamy boat ayway.
b.
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11-01-2010, 18:13
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Registered User
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Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
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Doh - and a motorsailer (big cabin trunk) helps too!
Cheers,
b.
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