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Old 08-09-2016, 22:46   #1006
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Wow! The framing looks crazy strong for the deck and cabin top. What size is the deck/ cabin plating? As always, it looks beautiful.

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Deck & cabin plating is 5mm, except where there are any fittings attached such as anchor winch, bollards, yankee and staysail tracks, clutches, blocks etc, where it is generally a minimum of 12 mm thick. The entire top of the combing where sheet winches are fitted is 12 mm.

Some of the fittings are welded through the deck. Those that are attached with screws will be blind tapped into the aluminium to ensure no possibility of leaks below deck.

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Old 09-09-2016, 00:08   #1007
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The new boat continues to look beautiful and strong. The photos of your current boat anchored in the thunder storm makes one appreciate all the good information you and Noelex have provided in the anchor photos thread. I assume you didn't jump right in during that weather to get photos of your anchor set, or did you?


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The captain took pity on me .
The water is like soup following these conditions, so no shots were possible the day before last, but the thunderstorm was short lived this second time and we will be in our current spot long enough enough for clarity to settle, so underwater photos will be taken.

When I look back at the photo I posted, conditions looks so much tamer than reality. The salty rain was horizontal and felt like needles hitting skin. No hope standing in these conditions - you crawl. The boat pitches and rolls violently. No verbal and little visual communication is possible between the bow and helmsman.

We were actually out in something similar dropping anchor the night before last. Trying to carry a "special storm anchor" forward in these conditions or deploying two would just be laughable. The severity was unexpected, so no hope of prepreparing for this. Thunderstorms swept through for 8 hours with very few lulls while the wind swirled through 270 degrees and our plot subscribed the most perfect circular shape. I napped, but it was very comforting seeing this thin arc each time each time an eye opened. At least yesterday's conditions did not last as long.

Anyway, more boat build photos to come after I have had brekkie .

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Old 09-09-2016, 00:54   #1008
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Here are some of our deck features that we are seeing for the first time. Some of them are very simple, but serve to make the boat more functional and are easy to incorporate at this stage of the build.

First the swan neck:
The best way of getting mast wires through the deck in a completely waterproof manner, but something that all allows for future additions and replacement of wires,
is with a swan neck.

Traditionally swan necks are swan neck shaped , but a stronger swan neck can be made welding a complete pipe onto the deck with an opening at the rear base of one end. It then also makes a great tie down point at the base of the mast.

This is ours:




This photo on a steel boat explains it better:

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Old 09-09-2016, 02:01   #1009
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Modern construction tries to do away with deck clutter primarily for aesthetics, but it is also stated there is less to stub toes on.

In boat reviews this is often mentioned as a great positive feature, however, what we have found that people who cruise full time know the boat so well that these raised areas are unlikely to be hazards and instead become assets, as feet can be braced against them. When it comes to numerous tie down points and handholds, they are in fact invaluable. In some cases like hatches, not making them flush with the deck can greatly assist their waterproof nature. This is one instance where aesthetics will take a back seat on our boat.

This is some of our deck "clutter".

Each hatch has four tangs welded at the corners. These will provide tie down points for wind scoops, hatch covers, etc. The 20 mm thick staysail track is also shown in this shot:


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Old 09-09-2016, 02:14   #1010
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If I were but wealthy enough to have these guys make me a catamaran...
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I do like the tabs/tangs. brilliant idea!
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Looks fantastic, and thats is one seriously strong deck. I like how you have kept the area forward of the mast clear, is that so you can strap a dinghy down over it?
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Looks fantastic, and thats is one seriously strong deck. I like how you have kept the area forward of the mast clear, is that so you can strap a dinghy down over it?
Yes. The dinghy will be hung under the solar arch most of the time, but for longer passages it can be strapped down at the front.

The dinghy position is indicated in yellow below. Not being large it leaves plenty of room on the side decks, and the front locker can still be opened.
Five tangs to secure the dinghy are also shown. We have lots of those pad eyes all over the deck .

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I love this photo .

We copied this hand rail from a couple of other Bestevaers. It will make going forward so much easier. A similar rail is "standard" on the pilothouse roof and can just be seen in the background. The third lot of similar handrails on the inside of the cockpit combing just inboard of the winches (not welded on yet) is similar to that seen on KM's Stadships. Our time spent examining lots of boats and photographing features we liked, helped tremendously when it came to drafting specifications.

Below is one of the few areas on the deck that have been sanded properly yet, but it gives an idea of final finish. That vertical sheet running fore/aft tack welded next to it is only temporary:


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yeah those little deck attachments are amazing.
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Better view of the hand rail on the pilot house top. One of the new cockpit locker lids can just be seen here as well:


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No one has spotted that we have no companionway overhead sliding hatch. I haven't yet seen a yacht without one of these.

We consider them more annoying than beneficial when the pros and cons are weighed up. One of the bonuses is that climbing in and out of the boat will keep us agile in our too fast approaching old age .

It does make it more practical in our case as there is only one step down to the pilothouse floor and this step is at the same level as the cockpit floor. We trialled the entry/exit manoeuvre out in some of KM's existing boats with the hatch closed and we don't think we will miss having a hatch.

Note the decent overhang at the rear of the pilot house. This creates a very useful mini dodger. There is a continual handhold around the entire overhang as well:


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If the step to the pilothouse is at the cockpit floor level, how will you stop water flowing to the pilothouse when a large wave enters the cockpit? Maybe a watertight door, or some sort of washboards for stormy weather.

Maybe you have also a small threshold to stop rain water flowing in.

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No one has spotted that we have no companionway overhead sliding hatch. I haven't yet seen a yacht without one of these.

We consider them more annoying than beneficial when the pros and cons are weighed up. One of the bonuses is that climbing in and out of the boat will keep us agile in our too fast approaching old age .

It does make it more practical in our case as there is only one step down to the pilothouse floor and this step is at the same level as the cockpit floor. We trialled the entry/exit manoeuvre out in some of KM's existing boats with the hatch closed and we don't think we will miss having a hatch.

Note the decent overhang at the rear of the pilot house. This creates a very useful mini dodger. There is a continual handhold around the entire overhang as well:


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If the step to the pilothouse is at the cockpit floor level, how will you stop water flowing to the pilothouse when a large wave enters the cockpit? Maybe a watertight door, or some sort of washboards for stormy weather.

Maybe you have also a small threshold to stop rain water flowing in.
The latter is right, except it is a fairly high threshold we will need to step over (it is just a bit lower than the cockpit seats). We also have washboards that will slide down and be counterbalanced, making drawing them up to any position easy.

We found having the step in the pilot house the same level as the cockpit floor makes it much easier to move in and out without an overhead hatch, as you don't need to alter the amount you are stooping.
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Re: Bestevaer 49ST

I like the length of the extended hand rail keeping it nice and safe, I gotta say I'm not a fan of those tangs though, I like a clean deck but that's irrelevant not my boat and admittedly they can come in handy.

The dinghy looks to be on the small side but at the same time it leaves room on the side deck as you said, perhaps worth the trade-off of having to do some extra trips when restocking etc.

I gotta say that the framing looks great too, she will be one sturdy girl.
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