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Old 24-04-2016, 18:11   #601
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Snowpetrel, I have dug up the deck paint plan. It is necessary at the hull build stage, as it affects how the area is sanded.

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Thanks SWL, looks good, Any reason you left the pilothouse top without any nonskid?

Is it going to be bare aluminium between the non skid paint. Or is the whole deck and cabin going to be painted and the non skid then painted on top of the paint?

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Thanks SWL, looks good, Any reason you left the pilothouse top without any nonskid?

Is it going to be bare aluminium between the non skid paint. Or is the whole deck and cabin going to be painted and the non skid then painted on top of the paint?
We may fit another couple of solar panels on the pilothouse roof (provisional wiring is being laid). In the interim, little walking will be done in this area.
At anchor we will have the boom tent rolled out so the entire area will stay cool. The boom tent is fitted on a track, as we have now. This is a brilliant arrangement we are duplicating - not our idea, it was installed when we bought the boat.

The rest of the deck will be bare alu.

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Any reason you left the pilothouse top without any nonskid?
yea, we added treadmaster non-skid pads to our hard dodger top - we ended up standing up there more frequently than we had guessed.
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yea, we added treadmaster non-skid pads to our hard dodger top - we ended up standing up there more frequently than we had guessed.
Yeah, I often ended up on the top of dodgers in rough water, but mostly to deal with traditional slab reefed mains, untangling reefing lines, zipping up boombags and adjusting leechcords. Snowpetrels dodger was all nonskid, it made a nice place to sit in good weather.

If your planning in mast or boom furling then you shouldnt need to go up there anywhere near as much?

It also seemed like there was a bit of a bare patch on the cabintop edges, but the ropes leading aft run there so it would only suport a narrow strip Probably with a handrail in the middle of it. Again I am used to having to go fwd to reef and unreef and I've never been lucky enough to sail with a slab reef system that didn't need a dash fwd occasionally to unfoul or overhaul something even with all the lines in the cockpit.

I am glad to hear you can paint non skid onto otherwise bare alloy. Thats seems a lot cheaper and less messy than trying to glue down treadmaster. I will have to pick your brains sometime on the paint prep they use.

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To slightly hijack SWLs excellent thread, fine tolerance's story can be read here http://www.bruceroberts.com.au/northwest/051106.htm and furled sails has a podcast with them.

Phil is a member here with the tag fine tolerance. An epic voyage! Sounds like he pounded out the dents and she is as good as new.

Thank you so much for posting that, just spent the better part of my morning reading all the posts!
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Snowpetrel, I have dug up the deck paint plan. It is necessary at the hull build stage, as it affects how the area is sanded.

I love that they drew the Mantus anchor in there too!
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...........I am glad to hear you can paint non skid onto otherwise bare alloy. Thats seems a lot cheaper and less messy than trying to glue down treadmaster. I will have to pick your brains sometime on the paint prep they use.

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Ben, on Panope I just prepped for normal painting by sandblasting. Used two coats of Epoxy primer that I had mixed the same color as the topcoat. I used the "sprinkled glass beads" technique on the still wet primer. Then top coated when dry.

This house top paint/non-skid as so far been perfect. No chipping around the edges. Leaving the perimeter pipe edge bare, is essential.

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Our view of the pilothouse top was that if solar panels were not fitted and we found non skid paint was necessary, we could very easily add it later.

In between paint discussion I will keep adding photos .

This is another shot of the second (middle) watertight bulkhead with the head and shower compartments:

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I love that they drew the Mantus anchor in there too!
....looks a little small though....
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I find the work sequence interesting. It is different than I am used to. I have typically seen metal boats built from the backbone + ring frames and then bulkheads, and then skinned (deck and hull) and then lockers and do-dads.
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I find the work sequence interesting. It is different than I am used to. I have typically seen metal boats built from the backbone + ring frames and then bulkheads, and then skinned (deck and hull) and then lockers and do-dads.
Me too.

Also, I would have expected notches to be present in the bulkheads to accomodate longitudinal framing. Will there be longitudinal framing? Perhaps the notches will be omitted entirely at the watertight bulkheads?

It would appear (at this stage) that any longitudinal DECK framing will be installed in segments.

Fascinating project.

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Me too.

Also, I would have expected notches to be present in the bulkheads to accomodate longitudinal framing. Will there be longitudinal framing? Perhaps the notches will be omitted entirely at the watertight bulkheads?

It would appear (at this stage) that any longitudinal DECK framing will be installed in segments.

Fascinating project.

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Our bulkheads are not notched. The stringers are welded end on to them. There is a rim running around the edge of each bulkhead with a gap left to accomodate the stringers. The bulkheads are substantial structures and all are designed to be watertight. I think notching would make it nightmare to weld in a manner to ensure the watertight nature.

Each stringer does, however, slot into numerous notched frames between the bulkheads and this framework is put together before being lifted in one piece and attached to the deck. At least, it looks like this last bit will occur . Stay tuned .

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Does anyone know why I can't see the pictures? Get an "Oops" "Image was linked incorrectly" msg.
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