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Old 25-03-2016, 05:54   #511
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The mystery of elevated intelligence has been explained... Never had the horizontal spar whack ya huh???
No way .

I've been covered in bruises though trying to avoid this (sliding under the boom when racing and hitting those nasty hard clutches someone with sadistic tendencies positions so strategically ).

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If a small closet, laundry will not dry because of no air flow (unless used for a single T-shirt at a time ). If large - seems a possible waste of space...
A Drying Closet is not just a closet aka an enclosed space. It is an appliance that has a heater and fan(s) to provide airflow. Here is a US brand but there are several in the EU and what I have read implies that Drying Closets where used first in EU.

Staber Drying Cabinets | USA Made Drying Cabinets

Seems like a small shower could be setup to be a drying closet as well as a shower. Just requires heat and venting.

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A Drying Closet is not just a closet aka an enclosed space. It is an appliance that has a heater and fan(s) to provide airflow. Here is a US brand but there are several in the EU and what I have read implies that Drying Closets where used first in EU.

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Ah, OK, thanks for explaining. Newer saw one of these before. Probably another one of those differences discussed in another thread here

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Seems like a small shower could be setup to be a drying closet as well as a shower. Just requires heat and venting.
This is exactly how Bavaria set things up - works very well. And the comfort of walking into a dry, warm area on cold mornings - priceless
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Being 7" shorter than my husband, not for me it's not .

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"All good things come in small packages"

But seriously, if it may be a hazard to a taller person, maybe have the design modified? For example, a permanent anchor (base) plate into which an eye is screwed when needed?
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Ah, OK, thanks for explaining. Newer saw one of these before. Probably another one of those differences discussed in another thread here

This is exactly how Bavaria set things up - works very well. And the comfort of walking into a dry, warm area on cold mornings - priceless
It's a good idea.


I have a dedicated wet locker behind my nav station with a drain and heat. The central heating blows air right through it and it works pretty well, but it's a little small when you have a boat load of sailors with all their weather gear">foul weather gear.

I have central heating in both heads as well, but it's not enough. Some kind of separate heating, which could be used even when you're not heating the whole boat, would be a Godsend. If you have an outlet inside the shower as well, you could use the shower the way it's described here, and plus eliminate dampness there. It's a great idea.

My poor substitute for this is to crank up the generator and put an electric fan heater in the aft heads when someone is taking ablutions there. Makes it nice and warm, and then helps dry it out afterwards.
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But seriously, if it may be a hazard to a taller person, maybe have the design modified? For example, a permanent anchor (base) plate into which an eye is screwed when needed?
With 75 mm of insulation, the loop will be buried in this. I presume there will be a small cover plate enabling access if needed (should be rare).

You are very right about needing to worry about hazards if you are unexpectedly tossed about. Minimising head injury potential was one of the big considerations when planning the location and type of hand holds.

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With photos arriving at the end of each week, Friday nights are now my favourite .

This week work commenced on the sections below the water line.


The rear portion with the substantial rudder tube:




A mid section:




The anchor locker at the front with the 8mm thick rim support for the floor:




The 15 mm thick stem head being fitted:

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Very cool pics SL! isn't it great to see such quality and precision work?

The welds look good on the pics and I wonder what they do with them? Clean with acid like they do with stainless steel welds?
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Looks beautiful as aluminum sculpture. Could be in any art museum, even in pieces.


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Are they lofting full-size plans (I guess not), or are they cutting the alloy components via CAD/CAM and a plasma or waterjet cutter?

Sure looks pretty
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What beaut workmanship is evident in those photos, MErmaid. When I compare what I've seen there with what I saw in a "well regarded" Ozzie alloy shop... well, there just ain't no comparison!

And now, a silly question that has been bothering me for weeks: how do you pronounce "Bestevaer"? I've been thinking "best-ever", just 'cause it looks kinda that way, but is that correct?

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Very cool pics SL! isn't it great to see such quality and precision work?
Jedi, KM's workmanship is superb. The Dutch are the best craftsmen we have seen when it comes to aluminium welding. You can be proud of your countrymen .

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The welds look good on the pics and I wonder what they do with them? Clean with acid like they do with stainless steel welds?
With stainless steel I think the acid is used after welding not just to clean, but to create a protective layer for corrosion resistance. With aluminium welding as soon as it comes in contact with oxygen a film of aluminium oxide is automatically formed so I don't think additional treatment is required. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chip in.

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Looks beautiful as aluminum sculpture. Could be in any art museum, even in pieces.

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Tayana, I too consider it a work of art. Almost (but not quite) a pity to cover it up .
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And now, a silly question that has been bothering me for weeks: how do you pronounce "Bestevaer"? I've been thinking "best-ever", just 'cause it looks kinda that way, but is that correct?

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The norwegian pronounce would be very close to "best-ever" something like "beste-var".
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The norwegian pronounce would be very close to "best-ever" something like "beste-var".
The pronunciation has me beat LOL. I have listened carefully and I think the Dutch pronounce it "Best-var". If there is an "e" in the middle, it is very short.

As for the meaning, this is straight off KM's website:

"Best what?
Bestevaer was a nickname given to Michiel Adriaanszoon De Ruyter, one of the important Dutch admirals of the seventeenth century. The crew loved their captain and called him 'Beste Vaeder' (best father), which was then shortened to Bestevaer. The word Vaer also means sailor, seafarer. Thus, De Ruyter was not only the best father, but also the best seafarer. Bestevaer is a very fitting name.
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