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**s/v Jedi** · 06-05-2018, 17:07

Hey Seaworthy and Noelex, here's some R&R for you guys, enjoy

model 10 · 06-05-2018, 17:58

[QUOTE=darylat8750;2627358]The brand name of the plastic gizmos would be appreciated.

They fall out and/or turn the same color as the chain.

Pelagic · 06-05-2018, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Wotname

Are you using a chain counter (electronic) as well?

Not to turn this into an anchoring Chain thread, but probably more than Nolex, I cannot see the value of a chain counter?

Anchoring is not that precise and this simple methodology has mentally worked well for me for many years

Firstly, calculating your required scope including depth beforehand is simple, before you let go!

1.... I Paint my chain at approximately One Boat Length Intervals. (For Stargazer every 20m), so that I can easily visualize CPA's when stretched out. (If the yacht is around 50m, then intervals are painted at 50m

2... I always leave the painted marks on deck as a reminder and to make it easy to recoat colors.

3....Once prepped I use an etch primer (if needed) then epoxy or vinyl epoxy for color when recoating.

4....I only use colors that are easy to see at night
Red/Yellow/White/Orange/ Double Red/ Yellow-Red and at last danger marks... a safety lanyard to secure if I needed to remove the bitter end to bouy off

I find blue hard to see at night, so don't use it.

**noelex 77** · 06-05-2018, 22:01

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Originally Posted by a64pilot

Source of chain markers, maybe a link?
Paint I used is not going to cut it, it’s mostly gone now and I am going primarily by feel and they way the scope looks from the bow.

The chain markers we use are made by Osculati and are called “Chain Rainbow Markers”.

https://www.osculati.com/en/11004-m-...rainbow-marker

They are available in chandleries, but to purchase enough of the different colours to mark a whole length of chain usually they need to be ordered on line. They are available in packets of 8 and boxes of 40. I am not sure if they made for imperial chain and the fit is reasonably critical.

I would suggest buying just a single packet first and checking the fit and how well they stay in place on your chain.

BTW a useful trick if you do not have legible (or any) marks on the rode is to use the GPS. The units are accurate enough nowadays to give a reasonable estimation of distance between dropping and finishing the setting process. If your anchor sets quickly (as good anchors do) this will be close to the amount of scope deployed.

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Originally Posted by darylat8750

The brand name of the plastic gizmos would be appreciated.
I desire a chain counter but if I cruised warm water with a Mermaid to check the anchor I wouldn't think a chain counter was worth the hassle either.

Mermaids are the more expensive option, but they have other skills

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**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-05-2018, 22:36

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Originally Posted by olaf hart

Chain markers look good.

I like the ties too, I wonder how they would go as counters, one turn round the link for each 10 m chain?

The ties would need to be colour coded to work well. It takes too long to pause and count the number of ties. One problem is that in muddy areas the line simply eventually goes brown, losing the colour code. The markers do that to some degree, but not as markedly.

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Originally Posted by olaf hart

What knot are you using?

It was a bowline with a yosemite finish. I left the tail the same length as the standing end. Unlike a standard bowline not under constant load, this has no tendency to come undone underwater. It was a CF member who introduced me to this finish several years ago. I wish I could remember who it was so I can thank them properly, as this has been invaluable.

A water bowline is another option, but with the two initial loops I find dressing it is slow, so I don't tend to use it.

Now that you have made me think about my knot selection, a zeppelin bend would have been even better, as the tails would have stuck out in different directions, making the marker more obvious. Also it is quicker and possibly even more secure in this application. As well, its simplicity and effectiveness are unbeatable, and last but not least it is my favourite knot and I love tying it. I should have used it here

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SWL

**Jim Cate** · 06-05-2018, 22:45

Hey SWL, now I gotta ask: do you tie your shoes with a Zepp?

Jim

**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-05-2018, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Hey SWL, now I gotta ask: do you tie your shoes with a Zepp?

Jim

I would if I could

. My only shoes are crocs and sailing boots, so no laces.

**JPA Cate** · 06-05-2018, 23:10

Speaking of boots for the far north, did you see El Pinguino's thread about a year and a half ago? He and some other high latitude people were discussing the best Icelandic boots....pretty specialized. And the discussion of socks that accompanied it, as well.

Happy searching, oh Wondrous Mermaid.

Ann

**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-05-2018, 23:28

I will unashamedly use this opportunity to promote the zeppelin bend

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I posted the following thread four years ago, and during this time I have become even more enamoured with this knot. I think it rates right up there with the bowline as the most useful sailing knot:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ad-128727.html

A few of its wonderful charcteristics:

It is very secure.
It needs no dressing (rare for a knot), making it quick to tie.
It is reasonably easy to tie and remember.
It can be tied in the dark.
It will not shake loose easily before load is applied (or between loads) and can be used confidently underwater.
It can be undone super easily even after high loads.
It can be used for line of different diameter with little modification.

This is what it looks like:

**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-05-2018, 23:42

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Originally Posted by JPA Cate

Speaking of boots for the far north, did you see El Pinguino's thread about a year and a half ago? He and some other high latitude people were discussing the best Icelandic boots....pretty specialized. And the discussion of socks that accompanied it, as well.

Happy searching, oh Wondrous Mermaid.

Ann

I remember reading a thread discussing clothes in general for high latitude sailing. I will have to go and find that again.

At the moment, my gear is:
- Henri Lloyd Shadow sailing boots
- NZ possum/merino socks, hat and gloves
- Icebreaker merino thermal underwear (brilliant stuff, I am living in that now without anything added)
- Some old merino jumpers
- A Patagonia down jacket (used most of last winter, I love it)
- Musto MPX jacket (I had an HPX before, but with a pilothouse it was strongly suggested that this wasn't needed) and old Kathmandu goretex jacket
- Old Musto and Kathmandu goretex pants (freshly washed and waterproofed)
- Old synthetic balaclava

I am lacking decent gloves. Neoprene may be a good option, but I will chase up that old thread and see what was recommended. Any suggestions appreciated.

SWL