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Old 15-01-2013, 19:58   #106
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Strait, is the Orca an Ingrid with a Pilothouse?
No, the Orca is a slightly different creature than the Ingrid. Based on the same Colin Archer lines but built by Joe Breskin and Seven Seas Yachts as opposed to the Ingrid's of Blue Water Yachts fame.

Orcas are heavier and have a slightly more refined entry than the Ingrid.

The pilothouse on mine is of custom one off manufacture. Really great for the PNW. Large tankage, big motor, inside steering.
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No, the Orca is a slightly different creature than the Ingrid. Based on the same Colin Archer lines but built by Joe Breskin and Seven Seas Yachts as opposed to the Ingrid's of Blue Water Yachts fame.

Orcas are heavier and have a slightly more refined entry than the Ingrid.

The pilothouse on mine is of custom one off manufacture. Really great for the PNW. Large tankage, big motor, inside steering.
I saw an Orca on line with an aluminum pilothouse. Looked really tough and sturdy.
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Old 15-01-2013, 20:47   #108
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I saw an Orca on line with an aluminum pilothouse. Looked really tough and sturdy.
It was quite possibly my boat. I believe there were only 16 Orcas built. I think mine is the only one around with an aluminum pilothouse. I bought it two years ago and she's got another year minimum in her refit.

Tough and sturdy is a good way to describe her. We've added 3 waterproof bulkheads, armaflex, new wiring, new through hulls, new chainplates, custom ground tackle system by Port Townsend Foundry and more. She's a beauty!

Nancy Erley's boat Tetheys is an Orca.
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:37   #109
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I put a link to your ad in classifieds before I knew it was yours. Hope you don't mind.
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I put a link to your ad in classifieds before I knew it was yours. Hope you don't mind.
No dude, it's all good!

There's only one like her. Wait until you see her when I'm done.
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Looking forward to it. Why an aluminum Pilothouse rather than a fiberglass one to match the hull?

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The pilothouse was built by a commercial boat builders employee in his "off" hours.
It reflects the Pacific North Wests tendency toward sturdy built commercial fishing fleet boats of which the PO was one.
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It looks very sturdy indeed. how does she sail?
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Old 17-01-2013, 02:52   #114
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She'll do 1/2 the wind speed right up to 15 knots.
She has a low freeboard and would probably be considered a little "wet" for some folks when in heavier seas. I personally like that about her.

Her rig has been designed by Bill Crealock. He removed the mizzen mast, moved the main mast aft and added the staysail. Port Townsend Rigging executed the plan, and Carole Hasse sails round out the sail plan nicely. So bottom line is, she actually sails pretty well. Points nice and with 4k of lead added doesn't have the initial tenderness that some Ingrid's have.

She has a 60HP Perkins but has been under propped IMHO. I'm putting a three blade prop on her now. That should give her some umph in some of our wild tidal swings and currents.

Sorry for the diatribe, you asked. Here's a video of her sailing on Puget Sound.

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Hi John

Nice video. She moves right along. How much wind did you have that day?

Ever think about installing lifelines?

Really a nice, clean looking craft. Would love to sail on her some day.

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Hey Bill,

The winds were light that day 8-10 knots if I recall. She does get up and go though. A lot better than most people would even imagine for a heavy (36K) displacement, full keeled, 100 year old design.

Yes, I think of lifelines regularly. So far I haven't been able to bring myself to mount them on my deck though. The boat is dry as a bone and I'm afraid of changing that. I'm playing with the idea of mounting them to my toe rail but am not to sure yet. If I do put some on I'd like to keep them to 24" and solid. When I really need them is going forward in rough crap and then I'm usually crawling anyway.

Thanks for the compliments though. It's nice to hear once in a while. You'll of course always be welcome aboard now.....
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I have seen many pilothouses over my time but have never found them to be practical or attractive. Years later, and currently, we bought a completely refurbished Corbin39. It of course is a pilothouse and built after they modified the design and increased the height of it by 8 inches. Functionalbility is incredible, its height is not so much that you cant see from the cockpit, the light is incredible in the boat, having a different backup steering inside ( hydraulic in, cable out) is great. The ability to do a watch from the inside is another bonus. In our weather where we live it is often drizzly which also no longer stops us from going out.
Probably best of all is the boat is one of the safer ones out there for any type of sailing, she has a moderate dispalcement and unlike many pilothouses actaully is a great sailor
Hope this helps
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Hi Cortez

Got any photos of your baby?
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I made an album on my profile, let me know if you are able to view them
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Thanks Southern Star and Cortezsailer for the information. Looks like we will have to check out the Corbin 39 and train our dog to negotiate steps!
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