Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

[TeddyDiver]

Did I say ugly as a butt?

[westsail374]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

Nordhavns are pigs in every way, and never nothing anyone can say in the same sentence with sail or sailing. Over powered, fat and thirsty pigs.. IMHO

Have you sailed one?

[TeddyDiver]

Sailed? They don't sail, they butt.. and no, never will (wisfull pray)
Please note that this is only my personal opinion, but I recommend anyway a visit to a shrink for sanity waiver if you are considering one
Thou have to admit they make a roomy liveaboard in a marina..

[Strait Shooter]

The best .........

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

The best .........

Nice reflection.

[westsail374]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

The best .........

MUST BE IN AUSTRALIA...

[Florence]

We're looking to buy a yacht with a pilot house and one that is dog friendly - not too many steep steps. No one has mentioned the Zeston 36. Any opinions welcome.

[Strait Shooter]

Originally Posted by delmarrey

Nice reflection.

WTF, over.
Must be Australia, you guys kill me.

[westsail374]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

WTF, over.
Must be Australia, you guys kill me.

Strait, is the Orca an Ingrid with a Pilothouse?

[mcarling]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

Did I say ugly as a butt?

That's not fair to ugly butts. That is perhaps the ugliest sailboat I've ever seen.

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by DeepFrz

Polux, the Amel is not a pilot house boat. It is open center cockpit with a hard dodger.

Kinda begs the question though doesnt it? IF you put a hard enclosure on a CC boat and do it well.... it's kind of a pilot house boat... maybe better than most pilot house configurations too!

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

The best .........

Nice looking boat!

[Southern Star]

Westsail374, while all sailing auxilliaries are used as motorsailers from time to time, IMO there is nevertheless more than a semantical difference. In traditional terms, a motorsailer is designed with an emphasis on and compromises tending towards motoring capability rather than sailing ability. The motorsailer will often have a larger diesel, greater tankage and perhaps even a hull design that makes motoring over distances more practical. These same attributes, of course, add weight and can compromise ultimate sailing capability.

The Nordhaven, for example, has a hull design with flat sections aft (that reduces rolling when sails are not up), huge windage and a keel that will provide very little lift - design attributes that virtually guarantee that one will have to motorsail to make any significant progress to windward. A Corbin 39, however, will be less effective under power (a rounded underbody, significant rocker and a canoe stern all reduce stability under power); however, a fin keel and moderate beam contribute to making her a very good sailer.

Florence, the problem with Pilothouse boats that are, as you put it 'dog friendly' - i.e., very few steps on the companionway ladder, is that you will end up with a cockpit that is essentially useless for operating the boat. The Bruckman 50, shown earlier, would likely meet your needs, but one is unable to see over the pilothouse from the cockpit.

For most of us who live in, or sail in moderate or warmer climates, the pilothouse becomes the area to steer the boat in inclement weather only. I know that was the case with my last boat as, unless bad weather forced me below, I vastly preferred to be outdoors with access to not only a wheel, but also all sail control lines when I was helming the boat. If you suspect that you are the same, you are really limited to pilothouse boats with a flush deck - this permits one to see over the pilothouse from the cockpit without standing up. To see what I am talking about, look at the Corbin 39 and my previous boat, the Cartwright 36 Pilothouse (post #81). To my eyes, flush deck pilothouse boats also are prettier, or at least, more balanced in appearance than boats with a pilothouse stuck on top of the coach roof.

Brad

[Polux]

Originally Posted by DeepFrz

Polux, the Amel is not a pilot house boat. It is open center cockpit with a hard dodger.

Even if you are technically correct the configuration is not the one of a normal CC with a hard dodger not only by its dimensions but because the wheel and the instruments are well inside as well as a comfortable seat.





Let's call it a pilot-shed sailboat?

[westsail374]

Originally Posted by Polux

Even if you are technically correct the configuration is not the one of a normal CC with a hard dodger not only by its dimensions but because the wheel and the instruments are well inside as well as a comfortable seat.





Let's call it a pilot-shed sailboat?

Looks far too comfortable to be called a shed!