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Old 07-01-2013, 21:09   #76
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

The best in my opinion. The Nordhavn 56MS





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Old 08-01-2013, 07:45   #77
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Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:32   #78
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That is a motor boat with auxiliary sails
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:37   #79
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That's okay. I have seen people motoring on sailboats with auxillary engines!
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Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
Very affordable, no doubt.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:58   #81
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

My last boat, a Cartwright 36 Pilothouse Cutter was also, IMO, very pretty. She is actually for sale again, it seems:
Custom Cartwright 36 Pilothouse Cutter - 1995 Used Boats For Sale | Oakville, Ontario

What I loved about her design, as well as the Corbin 39 and some of Ted Brewer's pilothouse boats such as the Pan Oceanic 38, 43 and 46, is that they were flush-deck forward of the pilothouse. This makes the boat much more balanced in appearance (rather than having the pilothouse look like an addition) and enables good visibility from the cockpit, which is where you will still be helming the majority of the time. To enable visibility foward from the interior helm station, the boat should also have a relatively flat sheer or, as in my former Cartwright, a sheer that flattens forward.

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Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
Yes she does sail nicely. There is a video on the Nordhavn site of her sailing in reasonably light winds and tacking. PAE built sailboats before they built trawler yachts.
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Very affordable, no doubt.
It will be very affordable, when I win the Powerball. I do my part. I just need those incompetent bumblers to draw the correct numbers.
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Yes she does sail nicely. There is a video on the Nordhavn site of her sailing in reasonably light winds and tacking. PAE built sailboats before they built trawler yachts.
Yes, better than I thought, but even so pretty slow and at 60.

Nordhavn 56 Sailing .mov - YouTube!

That is in flat water. With bad weather and waves and bad weater, without a proper keel, I doubt the boat can make it upwind without motorsailing.

Anyway those boats have a great engine and the sailing here is really for downwind with lot's of wind or just to motorsail.

Here you have another test and the tester does not seem so optimistic about the sail performance ... but is quite impressed with the interior



I guess that if someone has that kind of money and want to sail in comfort one of these is a better choice:



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Seems to me you would be living indoors on a boat like that!

Six months of the year, apart from time spent cooking and sleeping, I live primarily in the cockpit under a huge boom tent. That is one of the best bits about sailing . This would simply not be possible in comfort on a boat like the Nordhavn.
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Polux, the Amel is not a pilot house boat. It is open center cockpit with a hard dodger.
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

To me, the Nordhaven is a motor-sailer, not a pilothouse sailboat per se.

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To me, the Nordhaven is a motor-sailer, not a pilothouse sailboat per se.

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Well, ya know, when one must get to a certain point at a certain time - to meet someone, to drop someone off so they can make their air reservation, or to miss bad weather, etc., - every boat is a motor-sailor at some time or another!

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Nordhavns are pigs in every way, and never nothing anyone can say in the same sentence with sail or sailing. Over powered, fat and thirsty pigs.. IMHO
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