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Old 04-12-2014, 16:59   #286
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Impressive.... But they forgot the horn
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:30   #287
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

@Steadyhand;reading you 5 by 5!wanna see boats in bad wheather 2!

@Deblen;the LM 27(so not the LM28) is still being made overhere in the Netherlands.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:25   #288
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:26   #289
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

The new alubat ovni evolution 46 looks intresting,im not sure if you can cal it a real pilothouse, but it looks wery good,it even have a hangar for a smal dingy,
Pherhaps this is Alubats answer for the garcias exploration 45 :-)

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Hi Steve
Know of a Pan Oceanic 46 w dual steering that actually sails like a sailboat coming onto the market
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Hey Everyone -
Does anyone have thoughts on the Capital Yachts Gulf 27 pilothouse?
Looking for a starter boat for SF Bay day sails.
Saw this really cute, (looks loved) pilot house for sale in OH.
Doesn't seem like a huge bargain once brought out to west coast but would be interested in feedback:

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1991-Capital-Yachts-GULF-27-634530

Love this one too - but not a pilot house:
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/29975

Thanks so much!
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Freedom 39 pilothouse schooner. Way ahead of its time. Easy to see over. Innovative layout. Inside steering option. Joystick otherwise. Two independent unstayed masts for safety and flexabilityClick image for larger version

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Old 23-02-2015, 10:35   #293
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The new alubat ovni evolution 46 looks intresting,im not sure if you can cal it a real pilothouse, but it looks wery good,it even have a hangar for a smal dingy,
Pherhaps this is Alubats answer for the garcias exploration 45 :-)

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Not really, here you have the 52:

25/11/2013 - Présentation de l'Ovni 52 Evolution du chantier Alubat - Vidéo Dailymotion

The saloon is nor really raised neither the chart table. I guess it is an answer to Allures (Garcia's owner) that has been selling a lot more than OVNI. However the Allures interior design is better with a raised chart table. With the boat moving in a seaway you will have some forward view (and a very good lateral one). Not so on the new OVNI evolution.



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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

Polux:

I have admired the earlier OVNI 43 boats (I like the lifting keel, aluminum, etc.).

I looked at the video you linked of the new OVNI 52.

I was surprised at how the space was used and the interior. Frankly speaking, I was disappointed in what I saw. The passageway forward looks VERY narrow. The saloon/salon looks….unattractive, and after looking at many other boats in that size it looks plain and below the others. In fact, I will say I think that interior looks "ugly" to me. I rarely say things like that about a boat. So, they lost my interest in that boat.

In comparison, the Yachting video review of the Allures 45 looks very nice. The interior looks "livable" and the aft workroom, galley, and settee (dinette) all look good. The forward cabin looks nice too (for a marina).

Thanks for continuing to post the links and videos and information on boats such as these.
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Polux:

I have admired the earlier OVNI 43 boats (I like the lifting keel, aluminum, etc.).

I looked at the video you linked of the new OVNI 52.

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In comparison, the Yachting video review of the Allures 45 looks very nice. The interior looks "livable" and the aft workroom, galley, and settee (dinette) all look good. The forward cabin looks nice too (for a marina).

Thanks for continuing to post the links and videos and information on boats such as these.
The Allures introduced some new concepts on the world of the French centerboarders and its success is no accident. Out of any evaluation regarding the interior, they were the first French centerboarders to have an AVS similar to full keel boats (typically the OVNI AVS were on the low side).

They managed that not with a lot more ballast than what has the OVNI (that would make them slower) but with putting the ballast not on the bottom of the boat but outside the boat in a kind of short keel. They have also managed to brig the CG down making only the hull in aluminium and having a composite cored deck. They have succeeded in creating a system for bonding and join deck and hull that have worked without problems.
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Check the Delphia 46CC deck salon, strong and supper functional. The other one I like are much older.
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

These are neat boats . The Dix 38 pilothouse. I really like the layout if the first one, with the nav station in t he raised saloon.


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Hey Everyone -
Does anyone have thoughts on the Capital Yachts Gulf 27 pilothouse?
Looking for a starter boat for SF Bay day sails.
Saw this really cute, (looks loved) pilot house for sale in OH.
Doesn't seem like a huge bargain once brought out to west coast but would be interested in feedback:

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1991-Capital-Yachts-GULF-27-634530

Love this one too - but not a pilot house:
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/29975

Thanks so much!
I was never on the Gulf 27, but I owned a Gulf 29 for eight years. The hull on the 29 is the same as the Newport 28, also by Capital. My particular boat did not have inside steering, but I used a remote from my autopilot to steer inside. Sitting inside you are too low to see much outside so to run the boat, I would sit on the galley counter or stand.
The 29 (and 27) are fin keel sailboats, but the Gulf 32 is the full keel with a raised pilothouse that was built from 1964 to 1988 and a few are built now by another company.
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:43   #299
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

Well, for the guys that have the money there is this one:



Yes i know that they have a smaller one but that one is ugly to my eyes. Not designed as a true bluewater expedition boat but certainly seaworthy enough for me. Two have made recently the Sydney Hobart in style and comfort and not that slow.
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This new proposition from Regina 45 Images | Reginayachts seems a good compromise.

But is it me or does the galley seem totally out off scale on the plan.

Sink and stove seem too small.

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