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Old 28-01-2013, 07:13   #136
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The Vilms are very pretty and appear to be well built.

Very expensive.

Please explain why you believe they are worth the premium price,.

Because they are well built and not mass market boats

Not a premium price, the boats are not more expensive than the other true pilot/house decksaloon presently in the market, I mean new boats. New boats are expensive regarding old boats for the same reason new cars are expensive regarding old cars.

There are plenty of them specially in North of Europe and all have something in common: expensive.

Another recent one the CR380 DS:





Another one, the Sirius 35DS:

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Very pretty boats. Look nicely finished.
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Old 30-01-2013, 13:14   #138
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Very pretty boats. Look nicely finished.
Which explains their high cost. Tayana made a 32 foot Pilothouse boat, and there was also a 38 foot Shannon Pilothouse. Does anyone know them?
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:32   #139
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What is the difference between a Pilothouse and a deck saloon with an inside steering station?
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What is the difference between a Pilothouse and a deck saloon with an inside steering station?
I am not certain there is a binding definition.

The way I use the terms is a pilothouse boat has a pilothouse while a deck salon or raised salon does not.

Then an example would be a Bougainvillea, a Fisher, a Bestevaer.

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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

Saloons are bigger to accomodate a wet bar and Pusser's Rum! Oh and the dancing girls too!... :>)
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What is the difference between a Pilothouse and a deck saloon with an inside steering station?
To me, by definition a Pilot house must be designed for “Safe Piloting” in good and restricted visibility, 24 hrs. a day.

A deck salon (even with inside steering) can simply be considered as raised accommodation, if not set up to maintain a proper watch.
My post #71 says it better.
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To me, by definition a Pilot house must be designed for “Safe Piloting” in good and restricted visibility, 24 hrs. a day.

A deck salon (even with inside steering) can simply be considered as raised accommodation, if not set up to maintain a proper watch.
My post #71 says it better.
Thanks for the reference back to your well-illustrated and presented post#71, Pelagic. In a larger vessel such as yours, more specialized areas are possible. Those with smaller boats must sigh in envy and often make do with multi-purpose space. For many, I think your well set out list is an ideal to strive for.

How to reduce the distractions and set up that space for a proper watch - the "Safe Piloting" ideal that you correctly IMHO see as the desirable ideal?

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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?

Take a look at this Hinkley PH for sale in Wa State. Look at the interior photo looking aft, three easy steps to get below from the pilot house and nice and light down there. I made a list for a friend yesterday and came up with 6 PH boats 40-46 feet under 200k. Half were at ~100K. all appear to be very nice boats.
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clik on "full specs" instead of "Photo gallery" and you get all the pics at once....
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Very pretty boat. I note that the galley is down, as it is not on some Pilothouse boats.
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What is the smallest viable Pilothouse sailboat out there?


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What is the smallest viable Pilothouse sailboat out there?




This is pretty small.

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Maybe some of the Fisher-like series?

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Wow! Small but usable. Nice for retires perhaps.
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This is my Favorite from Australia.
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