Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-12-2015, 10:36   #31
Registered User
 
Highland Fling's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Scotland but sail in the Caribbean
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 461
Posts: 374
Re: Beneteau 473 vis Beneteau Oceanis 473 what is difference?

WHY do I say that well simply because it is a fact and true.........google is your friend do some investigation

Farr yacht design 202....

Design #202 BENETEAU FIRST 45f5, MOORINGS 445, OCEANIS 440 & OCEANIS 461
__________________

__________________
Now with 600AH of LIFEPO4
kindest regards
David
Highland Fling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2015, 12:04   #32
Registered User
 
Polux's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 5,765
Re: Beneteau 473 vis Beneteau Oceanis 473 what is difference?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Highland Fling View Post
WHY do I say that well simply because it is a fact and true.........google is your friend do some investigation

Farr yacht design 202....

Design #202 BENETEAU FIRST 45f5, MOORINGS 445, OCEANIS 440 & OCEANIS 461
The fact is that the two boats have slightly different dimensions and that the design 202 is the one of the First 45f5 and the one of the Oceanis 461 is the 202/OC .
The Moorings 445 is the same as the First 45f5 (design 202).

Don't know exactly what means OC on 202/OC. Maybe a modified design having as base the 202?

http://www.bavariaclub.nl/modellen/ontwerpers/Farr.pdf
Farr Yacht Design
__________________

Polux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2015, 18:09   #33
Registered User
 
Highland Fling's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Scotland but sail in the Caribbean
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 461
Posts: 374
Re: Beneteau 473 vis Beneteau Oceanis 473 what is difference?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polux View Post
The fact is that the two boats have slightly different dimensions and that the design 202 is the one of the First 45f5 and the one of the Oceanis 461 is the 202/OC .
The Moorings 445 is the same as the First 45f5 (design 202).

Don't know exactly what means OC on 202/OC. Maybe a modified design having as base the 202?

http://www.bavariaclub.nl/modellen/ontwerpers/Farr.pdf
Farr Yacht Design
REALLY!!! it seems you are just a wee bit confused as a Moorings 445 is the same as an Oceanis 440 with different interior layout just as the Moorings 463 is a Oceanis 461 with a different interior layout. So both Beneteau and Bruce Farr got it wrong when they say the F45f5 and the O461 have identical hull shapes somehow I don't think so.

Don't be confused by various dimensions you see online as these boats appear to have variable OAL, WLL and beam figures for inexplicable reasons, doubly so when it is a boat advertised for sale.

You seem to want to argue and debate this point for some inexplicable reason, yet you admit that you dont know what 202/OC means. Yet the page you have posted the URL to lists the 202/OC as a 45 foot Racer/Cruiser even though the boats listed Oceanis 440 44CC and the Oceanis 461 are all cruising boats.

So from your page a 45f5 is the same as a M445 which is the same as an Oceanis 440 (without the interior Mooring requested changes) which seems to be a 202/OC 'design if that page is to be believed.....therefore it follows if that page is correct that the 45f5 hull shape is shared between the 45f5 the M445, the O440 the 44CC AND the O461 which is where we started from.

Sadly the Beneteau site does not appear to list the past models details any more.

BUT if you google "the differences between First 45f5 and Oceanis 461" you will get a number of links that say the two boats hulls are identical.
__________________

__________________
Now with 600AH of LIFEPO4
kindest regards
David
Highland Fling is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
beneteau, enc, oceanis

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chronic leak in the Beneteau Oceanis 473 deck MauHof Construction, Maintenance & Refit 26 15-10-2015 02:46
Sailing to Key west from Miami vis Hank Channel MartinBoyer Navigation 44 30-03-2014 15:06
Sun Odyssey 47 v Oceanis 473 Clipper Daz62 Monohull Sailboats 0 06-04-2012 17:22
VIs in December NW Craig Atlantic & the Caribbean 21 31-08-2008 10:00
Back to the VIs NW Craig Atlantic & the Caribbean 6 29-01-2008 10:48



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 22:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.