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Old 25-11-2015, 09:39   #1
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Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

Would you choose Beneteau 46 (shallow keel- 1,70m)for sailing round the world?
Do you think it can be ''bluewater cruiser'' ?
Mast is deck stepped is it strong enough solution?

Has anybody sailed B46 in heavy weather?
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Old 26-11-2015, 00:17   #2
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

Most production cruisers over 40ft should be fine for circumnavigation as long as your smart enough to know what to do and don't push to hard


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Old 26-11-2015, 00:32   #3
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

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Most production cruisers over 40ft should be fine for circumnavigation as long as your smart enough to know what to do and don't push to hard


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You'll get a multitude of opinions on this subject. Aussie sailor says it rather succinctly. The last part of his sentence

"as long as your smart enough to know what to do and don't push to hard "

is important to note (no matter which boat you sail)
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Old 26-11-2015, 01:00   #4
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

I am also still in the boat-selection stage, and picked up the argument below:

If you run into problems with a deck-stepped mast it can be 'released' with relative ease in an attempt to avoid hull-damage.
A keel-stepped mast not so much, and it could unstep itself with catastrophic consequences.

I suppose a good case can be made for either. Plenty cruisers out there with deck-stepped masts.

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Old 26-11-2015, 04:07   #5
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

I sailed a B 393 around the world. And just finished a 10 day upwind passage from the USA to the Caribbean - from Beaufort North Carolina to St Martin.

10 days upwind, no breakages.
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Old 26-11-2015, 08:52   #6
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We crossed the Pacific in our 46, and the boat handled conditions fine (including numerous 45 knot squalls with proper reefing). Not pushing limits on rigging is great advice. We also did a Baja Bash with 5 days of pounding into 4-6 foot wind waves under motor, and it was flawless. The only downside is excessive yawing in large, trailing seas due to the beamy transom, so expect some taxing of your autopilot and make sure to practice 24/7 watches (required under maritime law but often ignored).
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Old 26-11-2015, 09:02   #7
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I have sailed our Beneteau Oceanis 461 from Connecticut to the Bahamas and back and to the Virgin Islands and back and all around the islands. Have beated for 2 days into 14 ft seas and 30 kts of wind. Nothing that was Beneteau has ever failed. I have put 15,000+ miles on it since 2006 when I bought it used. It has a keel stepped mast which I feel is very wise. I would absolutely sail it around the world if I was 30 years younger.
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Old 26-11-2015, 11:09   #8
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

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I am also still in the boat-selection stage, and picked up the argument below:

If you run into problems with a deck-stepped mast it can be 'released' with relative ease in an attempt to avoid hull-damage.
A keel-stepped mast not so much, and it could unstep itself with catastrophic consequences.

I suppose a good case can be made for either. Plenty cruisers out there with deck-stepped masts.

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If youre using that as a decider on which boat to buy to sail on then youll never leave the shore.. Plenty of both types out there surviving the oceans wrath. A de-masting is not that common.
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

It should be a fine boat for circumnavigating. As so much else concerning "proper" blue water yachts, keel stepped vs. deck stepped masts is a religious question. The Hallberg-Rassy range of yachts is built uniformly with deck-stepped masts. Always have been. Nobody would say that they are not superbly suited for water sailing">blue water sailing. It all depends on the quality.
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

Aussie sailor and carstenb both said it best. It's sailsmanship more than the boat. We purchased a 1996 Beneteau 44CC to use as a coastal cruiser. We have decided to outfit it with a furling staysail rig for heavy wx and things like SSB for longer passages. We may not circumnavigate but do plan on doing a lot of the Pacific after locking through in March 2017. We have over 8,000 miles on her since purchase and believe she will get us where we want to go.
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If youre using that as a decider on which boat to buy to sail on then youll never leave the shore.. Plenty of both types out there surviving the oceans wrath. A de-masting is not that common.
Couldn't agree more.
For any advantage, one can come up with 10 disadvantages. A sailboat is the sum of its; compromises, so you choose the compromise that suits you best, and be left with the knowledge that the biggest compromise is you yourself.

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Old 26-11-2015, 14:50   #12
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Would you choose Beneteau 46 (shallow keel- 1,70m)for sailing round the world?
Do you think it can be ''bluewater cruiser'' ?
Mast is deck stepped is it strong enough solution?

Has anybody sailed B46 in heavy weather?
I wouldn't reject a boat with a deck stepped mast, if done properly they are fine and even have some advantages. The relatively shallow draft and wide beam will probably mean that the range of negative stability will be larger than on a boat with a deeper draft and the same beam. If you are the cautious type and are able to avoid any extreme weather this may make no difference to you at all. If you are planning to do the high latitudes etc. then I personally would look at boats with a better range of positive stability. Best of luck to you. James
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Old 26-11-2015, 15:14   #13
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

I sailed a lot on that model.. I have mix feeling about the bluewater qualification.. I would not take the Benetau 46, specially, because under storm a deck stepped mast is not my cup of tea... a couple time I was worry about how the mast pound the deck under big stress..
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

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Would you choose Beneteau 46 (shallow keel- 1,70m)for sailing round the world?
Do you think it can be ''bluewater cruiser'' ?
Mast is deck stepped is it strong enough solution?

Has anybody sailed B46 in heavy weather?
I'm sure this is a boat that can sail round the world. As aussie_sailor said, the captain should know where the limits of the boat are and not push too far. My topmost question concerning this boat model would be the same that Lokiyawl already mentioned. How much should I prepare for the most extreme conditions? Is this model stable enough for me or should I pick some some other boat that is more "heavy keel cruiser" oriented?
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Re: Beneteau 46 - for circumnavigation?

to sum it up - no, yes, maybe. :-) Happy Thanksgiving, Yanks!
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