Beneteau, 36 foot plus for Blue Water cruising,

TOM · 30-04-2008, 06:09

Hope to get some honest answears off this great form ,Who would feel comfortable taking a standard Beneteau with minimal modifications around the world ,minimal modifications does not mean structural modifications obviously talking 38ft -- 42ft .Love the feedback please.

jackdale · 30-04-2008, 06:48

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Originally Posted by TOM

Hope to get some honest answears off this great form ,Who would feel comfortable taking a standard Beneteau with minimal modifications around the world ,minimal modifications does not mean structural modifications obviously talking 38ft -- 42ft .Love the feedback please.

It has been done. Liza and Ian Copeland did a 6 year circumnavigation on a 38 foot Beneteau. It had some modifications. Liza has written a series of books Just Cruising, Still Cruising, Cruising for Cowards. Ian was a Beneteau dealer and the boat was built for them in France.

Some Beneteau series are better suited to offshore. The First's lean toward the racing category.

Jack

donradcliffe · 30-04-2008, 06:59

We have taken our Beneteau first 456 around the world, and would feel comfortable doing it again. I did add a collision bulkhead in the bow, but that was partly to support a rack for the outboards. The First series were designed for the heavier loads of racing, and are probably a better boat than the Oceanus series, but both are capable of making it around the world in the low and mid-latitudes. The Cyclades models are pretty lightly built and could have some structural problems.

MarkJ · 30-04-2008, 08:58

We are doing it with a 393.

If I die I will post it here first.

Don't listen to nay-sayers who think they are made from paper machet. I would much prefer to be on a newish 361 than some of the old piles of junk we are anchored next to who are just about to cross the atlantic.

jackdale · 30-04-2008, 09:16

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We are doing it with a 393.

Which version of the 393? The double aft cabin version with the linear galley would concern me. The single aft with the U-shaped galley is safer for cooking.

Jack

speedoo · 30-04-2008, 11:42

I think Beneteau builds great boats for the money. I am particularly impressed with the design/engineering, and I have to believe that they have good quality control on the construction.

I own an Idylle 11.5 and it's a great boat. I think it would be a very good blue water boat, but my preference would be something bigger and heavier for a curcumnav.

ssullivan · 30-04-2008, 11:47

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Originally Posted by jackdale

Which version of the 393? The double aft cabin version with the linear galley would concern me. The single aft with the U-shaped galley is safer for cooking.

Jack

Yes, we looked at those at one time and the wife wouldn't have any part of the linear galley. She envisioned flying across the salon or wherver.

MarkJ · 30-04-2008, 14:11

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The single aft with the U-shaped galley is safer for cooking

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Jack

Safer???????????? I'm always on the lookout for a taste tester for Nicolles cooking! If they keel over dead I push the plate away!

Yes ours is the 2 cabin version. The storage space is trully awsome. The propper galley is terrific too. That linear galley on the 3 cabin version must be, as you say, difficult in a seaway.

Mark

ssullivan · 30-04-2008, 14:44

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Originally Posted by MarkJ

Safer???????????? I'm always on the lookout for a taste tester for Nicolles cooking! If they keel over dead I push the plate away!

Yes ours is the 2 cabin version. The storage space is trully awsome. The propper galley is terrific too. That linear galley on the 3 cabin version must be, as you say, difficult in a seaway.

Mark

Cool! You got the good one!

They do feel enormous inside, don't they? I was amazed when we looked at one while narrowing down the field.

MarkJ · 30-04-2008, 14:52

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They do feel enormous inside, don't they? .

Huge! I bought a case of beer and stowed it somewhere.... but it took a six-pack to find it again!

Reality Check · 30-04-2008, 15:24

I have the 361/362 and love the single aft cabin.... loads of good storage space in the port Lazerate and the U shaped galley helps out when attempting to do anything underway or in a rolly anchorage.

To be honest I have not done what I would call true Blue Water Cruising... more of the light blue varity between the PR and the Spanish, US and British Virgin Islands. Will be making the hop to the Leewards next year and who knows from that point but most likely not out of my little Carib pond. I've no interest in long term Blue Water runs... I like sleeping at night too much to do something that resembles "work" in a long crossing of multi days... one is enough for me!

TOM · 01-05-2008, 07:25

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Originally Posted by jackdale

It has been done. Liza and Ian Copeland did a 6 year circumnavigation on a 38 foot Beneteau. It had some modifications. Liza has written a series of books Just Cruising, Still Cruising, Cruising for Cowards. Ian was a Beneteau dealer and the boat was built for them in France.

Some Beneteau series are better suited to offshore. The First's lean toward the racing category.

Jack

Yes I have read the book about Liza and Ian Copelands adventure what a great story .Ian is a very experienced sailor with a love of racing ...The boat hade substantial factory modifications .

Randyonr3 · 04-05-2008, 08:59

The Copeland's, Liza, Andy, and the three kids Duncan,Colin, and Jamie were the main reason we started thinking of cruising in the first place.. Looked for a FIRST 38 for for about 5 years and couldnt find one.. we ended up with a FIRST 42.. pretty much the same boat as the 38 was really 40 feet in length.. the 38 went through a couple minor changes and became the FIRST 405..
The wife and I had the chance to set and chat with Liza a couple weeks ago at the Oakland Boat Show. I made the remark about looking around the table in hopes to see Jamie as in all her books, Jamie is her little pride and joy.
She informed us that "Jamie" has grown up and is a licenced pilot and is engaged to be married soon.
They still have the First 38 and sail it often.......

30-04-2008, 06:09	#1
TOM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On our yacht Byamee Boat: Footloose 40 steel cutter Posts: 105 Images: 1	Beneteau, 36 foot plus for Blue Water cruising, Hope to get some honest answears off this great form ,Who would feel comfortable taking a standard Beneteau with minimal modifications around the world ,minimal modifications does not mean structural modifications obviously talking 38ft -- 42ft .Love the feedback please.

30-04-2008, 08:58	#4
MarkJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Asia - on Sea Life Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life" Posts: 3,211 Images: 6	We are doing it with a 393. If I die I will post it here first. Don't listen to nay-sayers who think they are made from paper machet. I would much prefer to be on a newish 361 than some of the old piles of junk we are anchored next to who are just about to cross the atlantic. __________________ OurLifeAtSea.com

30-04-2008, 15:24	#11
Reality Check Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: West Indies, Now live aboard as cruiser/ voyager often with guest/ friends Boat: s/v Reality Check 36' Bene Posts: 491	I have the 361/362 and love the single aft cabin.... loads of good storage space in the port Lazerate and the U shaped galley helps out when attempting to do anything underway or in a rolly anchorage. To be honest I have not done what I would call true Blue Water Cruising... more of the light blue varity between the PR and the Spanish, US and British Virgin Islands. Will be making the hop to the Leewards next year and who knows from that point but most likely not out of my little Carib pond. I've no interest in long term Blue Water runs... I like sleeping at night too much to do something that resembles "work" in a long crossing of multi days... one is enough for me! __________________ I prefer a sailboat to a motorboat, and it is my belief that boat sailing is a finer, more difficult, and sturdier art than running a motor. --- Jack London

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30-04-2008, 06:59	#3
donradcliffe Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Caribbean for the winter Boat: Beneteau First 456 Posts: 723	We have taken our Beneteau first 456 around the world, and would feel comfortable doing it again. I did add a collision bulkhead in the bow, but that was partly to support a rack for the outboards. The First series were designed for the heavier loads of racing, and are probably a better boat than the Oceanus series, but both are capable of making it around the world in the low and mid-latitudes. The Cyclades models are pretty lightly built and could have some structural problems.

30-04-2008, 11:42	#6
speedoo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 698	I think Beneteau builds great boats for the money. I am particularly impressed with the design/engineering, and I have to believe that they have good quality control on the construction. I own an Idylle 11.5 and it's a great boat. I think it would be a very good blue water boat, but my preference would be something bigger and heavier for a curcumnav.

04-05-2008, 08:59	#13
Randyonr3 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: presently, California Delta..heading south in the fall Boat: Beneteau FIRST42 Posts: 436	The Copeland's, Liza, Andy, and the three kids Duncan,Colin, and Jamie were the main reason we started thinking of cruising in the first place.. Looked for a FIRST 38 for for about 5 years and couldnt find one.. we ended up with a FIRST 42.. pretty much the same boat as the 38 was really 40 feet in length.. the 38 went through a couple minor changes and became the FIRST 405.. The wife and I had the chance to set and chat with Liza a couple weeks ago at the Oakland Boat Show. I made the remark about looking around the table in hopes to see Jamie as in all her books, Jamie is her little pride and joy. She informed us that "Jamie" has grown up and is a licenced pilot and is engaged to be married soon. They still have the First 38 and sail it often.......