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Old 14-11-2008, 13:27   #46
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It seems they started the Cyclades line to compete with Bavaria in the Med charter fleets.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:33   #47
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The best cost benefit comes with buying older production boats which , having been built at a time when both labour and materials were cheaper and they didn't trust fibreglass al that much , were much better boats, built to a standard which would be prohibitively expensive today. Boats like the older Frasers, Spencers, Albergs, etc, built in the 60's and 70's are far better boats at a fraction the price of a Beneteau. While Beneteaus which capsize at 120 degrees are considered acceptable in terms of stability, many older designs have positive stability beyond 170 degrees, and a much better motion at sea, as well as having far better directional stability and are far more structurally sound.
They also leave you with enough money left over to actually leave the marina and go places.
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hi Brent, your post is interesting. I live in Toronto and was considering buying a newer Beneteau. However i like the thought of saving money and buying an older (better quality boat). Do you recommend a particular boat broker?..is there anything in the market now that catches your eye?

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I think you ought to charter a Bent 343. I did in Florida. Twice in fact. It wasn't for my type of sailing, but it may be for you. You have the advantage of trying out the models that you are interested in a charter fleet- take advantage of the opportunity. And go out in some real seas, you may be surprised.
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I sailed on 5 different B's last year in the BVI and Greece. Sailed in very light winds at times, one full day of 15-18 knt winds and a squall. They all sailed fine. I would say, if you like it and can afford it, buy it.
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hi Brent, your post is interesting. I live in Toronto and was considering buying a newer Beneteau. However i like the thought of saving money and buying an older (better quality boat). Do you recommend a particular boat broker?..is there anything in the market now that catches your eye?

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I think you ought to charter a Bent 343. I did in Florida. Twice in fact. It wasn't for my type of sailing, but it may be for you. You have the advantage of trying out the models that you are interested in a charter fleet- take advantage of the opportunity. And go out in some real seas, you may be surprised.
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I sailed on 5 different B's last year in the BVI and Greece. Sailed in very light winds at times, one full day of 15-18 knt winds and a squall. They all sailed fine. I would say, if you like it and can afford it, buy it.
Hey guys, This thread is over five years old. Brent Swain hasn't posted here since Feb of last year and I'm sure the OP has long since made his boat buying decision.

Like the OP, I sail on one of the Great Lakes. I day-sail on Lake Michigan, want to cruise the Great Lakes and the Admiral wants a bigger (read more stable) boat than the 8 foot wide, water ballasted boat we have now.

We've chartered a Beneteau 311 on Lake Superior (Apostle Islands) and it was too small. We've sailed the San Juan's on a Beneteau 361 and it felt right but the older ones still are too expensive for my budget. I am looking at a number of boats in the 34-36 foot range and I am interested in hearing from guys, like you, that have sailed BendyToys on the Great Lakes and/or in the BVI. Do you have information to share about the 343 or 351 models?

We think we will spend a couple weeks in the BVI next year. There will be 4 or 6 adults aboard. Any opinion on monohull vs. multihull in the BVI?

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Uuuh- I feel dumb. Remind me not to post to old threads....
BTW- I love Valiants. Would never go back to a current production boat- except maybe a Valiant.
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Re: Beneteau 343 ?

Don't worry about the old thread. This stuff is REALLY useful for a newbee thinking about buying a 343.

Thanks for the input (at any time...).

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BTW- I love Valiants. Would never go back to a current production boat- except maybe a Valiant.
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