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Old 27-09-2011, 01:24   #1
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Atlantic Crossing - Which of 'these' ?

Want your opinion and why you like one over the other...I have to give one of them to my girlfriend...I like them both equally.
HR-28 vs Whitby folkboat
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Old 27-09-2011, 01:32   #2
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Re: Atlantic crossing, witch of these?

you need to post photos of your girlfriend as well,otherwise the choice is obvious.......keep the boats.....
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you need to post photos of your girlfriend as well,otherwise the choice is obvious.......keep the boats.....
hahaha your right...but I meant to say lend a boat to my girlfriend while I sail the world with the other boat lol


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Old 27-09-2011, 02:16   #4
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Re: Atlantic crossing, which of these?

probably keep the full keeler for ocean passages,slower but more seaworthy.
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Old 27-09-2011, 02:50   #5
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Re: Atlantic crossing, which of these?

I'd take the Folkboat if I were you, for the reason atoll mentions, plus the fact that Folkboats have a proven bluewater pedigree, I'm not sure about the Hinterholler. Plus, the Hinterholler would probably be a more fun 'round the cans' boat for your girlfriend to cope with.
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Plus, the Hinterholler would probably be a more fun 'round the cans' boat for your girlfriend to cope with.
I just re-read that and it sounds a little condescending to our lady sailors, I didn't mean it that way, just that the Hinterholler would be a better inshore choice.
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I just re-read that and it sounds a little condescending to our lady sailors, I didn't mean it that way, just that the Hinterholler would be a better inshore choice.

I didn't take it that way. One person is sailing in lots of blue water and one is not. As it happens it's the guy who needs the full-keeled boat. Coastal cruising means ... sailing around a lot of cans. If there's some designated marked channel across the Atlantic this is the first I've heard of it.
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Re: Atlantic crossing, which of these?

When do you leave???? volunteer to keep the girlfriend company for you while you are gone as long as she comes with the boat
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I just re-read that and it sounds a little condescending to our lady sailors, I didn't mean it that way, just that the Hinterholler would be a better inshore choice.
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OMG, now you really made a bad effort worse ;-)))

Nay, seriously, if the long keel toy is sound, I would keep it for offshore work. When the boat is big, any configuration may be good. In a smaller boat, the longer the keel and the better the punds/inch factor, the easier to sail and stock the boat.

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Re: Atlantic crossing, which of these?

steeve---- take the hinterhoeller--- what happened to the leaky teaky .....
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steeve---- take the hinterhoeller--- what happened to the leaky teaky .....
the big boat is on the back burner for at least 3-4years, eventualy I plan to sail it to the bahamas and leave her there as a condo...for the time being I have no $$ to invest on her.

The HR28 has more storage and standing head room, shes at least 1000lbs, more of displacement, 18in wide walkway on each side of cabin alows to safly walk on deck...also shes in every way a proven ocean sailor mine has rounded cape horn twice and crossed the atlantic many times even in 80kn storm ( no problem)

The folkboat is a high cabin version with 5.11 head room, however dinnet is near the companionway alowing stand up coocking, she has the same salon seatees arangements as the hr28 with long and wide bunks, her v-berts are also a little les cramped then the hr-28...her cockpit is smaller but has better seatings with backrest...walking on deck beside the cabin is quite narow...I love her tiller-rudder arangement.

other then this both have same size and hull...both have solid glass without coaring...and both only need paint and varnish to be tip top.

exeption, the folkboat needs a mast!!!!

ps. my girl in the leaky teaky (still want her?)
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Re: Atlantic Crossing - Which of 'these' ?

I will take them both
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Re: Atlantic Crossing - Which of 'these' ?

i cant say witch of them is more seaworthy? The hr28 may have a finn keel but its long and thin and she has a skeg...as the folkboat shes known to have little to no helm on some sail points, basicly shes as good a sailor.

I know shes faster, especialy in light winds and points higher then the folkboat...in a storm id rather have the folkboat, on her you sit inside the cockpit not on the cockpit as the hr28.
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Re: Atlantic Crossing - Which of 'these' ?

hinterhoeller as decks are more spacious and easier to walk. and for the other reasons as well.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the boat on the left looks like a Pied Piper 28 which were built by Liberty Yachts back in the late seventies. A very capable seaworthy boat in it's day. I'm not certain of the condition of yours.
The boat on the right is definitely not a folkboat. The keel on a folkboat is a full traditional with a cut away forefoot (like the boat on the left). And the cabin top is completely different from the boat shown here. It is low, almost full width, curving slightly down towards the bow and it has two eliptical portlights on each side. They also had lapstrake hulls. Even the fibreglass versions were molded to look like lapstrake wooden boats.
However, having said all of that, with some fixing up I would take the one the left for the ocean passage. I would take the girlfriend too. It can get mighty lonely out there by yourself.

Cheers and, as they say here in Newfoundland, "long may your big jib draw".
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